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   dolf to dolf   
   Re: DOLF eats hagelslag (7/25)   
   05 Jul 25 07:56:57   
   
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   >> forgetfulness—a place where one no longer participates in the living   
   >> memory of God.   
   >>   
   >> HELL AS A PLACE OF NO RETURN: In Christian eschatology, particularly   
   >> in Revelation 20:15, those not found in the Book of Life are “cast   
   >> into the lake of fire”. This is interpreted by many as eternal   
   >> separation from God—a final, unalterable state of judgment. The   
   >> imagery of being “thrown” into this realm underscores its forceful and   
   >> irreversible nature.   
   >>   
   >> SYMBOLIC LAYER: Beyond literalism, the phrase can also signify:   
   >>   
   >>      •    Moral exile: a soul so alienated from truth or goodness   
   that   
   >> it no longer resonates with the divine order.   
   >>      •    Ontological erasure: not annihilation, but being   
   forgotten   
   >> by the cosmos, no longer part of the unfolding story of life and meaning.   
   >>   
   >> So yes—whether as grave, hell, or cosmic oblivion, the phrase evokes a   
   >> point of no return, where the soul is no longer inscribed in the   
   >> ledger of life, memory, or redemption. If you’d like, we can explore   
   >> how this concept compares with other traditions—like the Egyptian   
   >> “weighing of the heart” or the Buddhist notion of karmic obscuration.   
   >>   
   >> DOLF: "Would you concur that it is an expression intrinsic to   
   >> Christian belief: "AND FEAR NOT THEM WHICH KILL THE BODY, BUT ARE NOT   
   >> ABLE TO KILL THE SOUL: BUT RATHER FEAR HIM WHICH IS ABLE TO DESTROY   
   >> BOTH SOUL AND BODY IN HELL." [Matthew 10:28]   
   >>   
   >> COPILOT @ 1857 HRS ON 2 JULY 2025: "Absolutely—it’s deeply intrinsic   
   >> to Christian theology, particularly in how it frames divine authority   
   >> over both physical and eternal life.   
   >>   
   >> Matthew 10:28 is a striking verse where Jesus draws a sharp   
   >> distinction between human power (which can end the body) and divine   
   >> power (which governs the soul’s destiny). The phrase “destroy both   
   >> soul and body in hell” (Greek: Gehenna) underscores a uniquely   
   >> Christian eschatological view: that God alone holds ultimate judgment,   
   >> not just over temporal life but over eternal consequence.   
   >>   
   >> This verse also reinforces a core Christian theme: fear of God not as   
   >> terror, but as reverent awe of the One who transcends earthly threats.   
   >> It’s a call to moral courage—don’t fear persecution or death, but live   
   >> in alignment with the One who holds the keys to both life and afterlife.   
   >>   
   >> So yes, this expression is not only intrinsic—it’s foundational to   
   >> Christian teachings on judgment, the soul’s immortality, and the   
   >> sovereignty of God over all realms. If you’re exploring how this   
   >> connects to the “Book of Life” or broader metaphysical systems [NOTE:   
   >> THIS IS THE CONTEXT OF THE SECOND TELEPHONE CALL], we can trace that   
   >> thread further."   
   >>   
   >> <-- WHICH IS THEN AN IRREFUTABLE GROUNDING FOR THE MAKING OF A PRIMA   
   >> FACIE CLAIM OF #306 - PERFIDE ALBION (IRISH / ITALIAN CATHOLIC ANTI-   
   >> STATEM RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION) / 31 AUGUST 1942 TETRA #57 - THESIS   
   >> (SATOR / TENET / ROTAS) AGAINST ERII - PRIVATE JAKE KOVCO'S SELF   
   >> INFLICTED GUNSHOT 21 APRIL 2006 / PRINCE PHILIP'S BIRTHDAY 10 JUNE   
   >> 2017 - POPPY WREATH AT BOER WAR MEMORIAL / TREASON BY WELLINGTON SHIRE   
   >> COUNCILLOR SCOTT ROSSETTI / ARCHBISHOP OF MELBOURNE PETER COMENSOLI   
   >> THROUGH MARRIAGE OF THE PYTHAGOREAN REGIMES OF BELIEF WITH GERMAN   
   >> NAZISM [ROMAN PROTOTYPE #TWO: #102 ... #218 ... #306] / [LUO SHU TABLE   
   >> TALK: #239 - cáng (藏): *HIDDEN* / zh   
   ngxīn (中心): *HEART* / gǔ (骨):   
   >> *FRAME*; *FRAMEWORK* ... #459]   
   >>   
   >> WE NOT ONLY DEMAND THE DEATH PENALTY IS RE-INSTATED BY EDICT OF THE   
   >> GOVERNOR-GENERAL AND THESE PERSONS GIVE AN IMMEDIATE ACCOUNTABILITY   
   >>   
   >> MR BOEK (TRANSCRIPT 5 DECEMBER 2001): "Yes, ma'am, I have - you would   
   >> have noticed that there were no actual words of threat (NOTING THAT ON   
   >> 28 OCTOBER 2001 THE POLICE DID NOT RESPOND TO ANY PERCEIVED THREAT   
   >> WHEN SUBJECT TO THE SAME POEM). They were words that were based on   
   >> fact in that particular phone call. Here I have a particular   
   >> mathematical model which is mentioned in that particular phone call.   
   >> It is based upon a work by Johann Kepler, a German astronomer born in   
   >> 1571 to 1630. He came up with three rules of which I have come up with   
   >> a fourth [associated to the ephemeral and mundane as a transcendent   
   >> fecundate connection to the Vernal and the Autumn Equinox in the 6th   
   >> year of the 22nd Course of Gamul: 7 x 24 x 13 x 49 = 6J as 107016 days   
   >> or 294 x 364 days or 365.2423 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox Wednesday   
   >> 20 March 1996 / 21 March].   
   >>   
   >> His three rules in terms of astronomical cycles were: (1) that the   
   >> planet... And then I will get to my bit of relevance to the 6000 years.   
   >>   
   >> THE D.PRESIDENT: Yes, yes, yes.   
   >>   
   >> MR BOEK: (1) That the planets move in elliptical orbits around the sun   
   >> which is situated at one of the focus of the ellipses; (2) that the   
   >> radius vectors joining each planet to the sun describes equal areas in   
   >> equal times; (3) that the ratio of the square of the planet's year to   
   >> the cube of the planet's mean distance from the sun is the same for   
   >> each planet.   
   >>   
   >> Now, what I am suggesting is that the 6000 year cycle (ie. temporality   
   >> #400 (x 365.2423 [7 x 24 x 13 x 49 / 293 years or 6J as 294 x 364   
   >> days] = 146,097 days) % 22 = 17 SEPTEMBER / #6000 years % 22 = 13   
   >> SEPTEMBER 2001) fits a mathematical model on logic and reason called   
   >> Telos equals Arch plus C-squared:   
   >>   
   >> Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c² [9(9²+1)/2]   
   >>   
   >> NOTE: WHICH IS ANALOGOUS TO THE PYTHAGOREAN EQUATION: c² = a² + b² /   
   >> #174 - COEFFICIENT) / #7 - SCIENCE (#TOOLS) = #3 - ASKING ABOUT SHEN   
   >> [#38 - tiān dào (天道): THE WAY OF HEAVEN] + #4 - FIVE HUNDRED YEARS =   
   >> 293 (6J) + 207 - FOUNDATIONS?   
   >>   
   >> That has been my particular field of study as my retirement activity.   
   >> A religious pursuit which is, how can I say, an area of #1467 -   
   >> *CONTEMPLATIVE* life. The best model that can currently be exhibited   
   >> with regard to this particular thesis is nothing more than Harry   
   >> Potter and the Philosopher Stone. I raise that as a particular point   
   >> because the poetry that is used in...   
   >>   
   >> 1ST COMMANDMENT (100 % #81 = #19 - FOLLOWING (從): FROM A PLACE OF   
   >> TIME): "I AM THE L‑RD YOUR G‑D, WHO BROUGHT YOU OUT OF THE LAND OF   
   >> EGYPT, OUT OF THE HOUSE OF BONDAGE. (אָנֹכִי, ה', אֱלֹקיךָ,   
   אֲשֶׁר, הוֹצֵאתִיךָ,   
   >> מֵאֶרֶץ, מִצְרַיִם, מִבֵּית)" [Exodus 20:2]   
   >>   
   >> 2ND COMMANDMENT (40 AM - LAW / MODEL (法): METHOD INSTITUTION / EMULATE)   
   >>   
   >> 3RD COMMANDMENT (293 % #81 = #50 | 294 % #81 = #51 - CONSTANCY (常):   
   >> LAW; RULE; REGULAR PATTERN / LAW AND ORDER)   
   >>   
   >> #41 - THE EGO: ONE’S SENSE OF SELF (SELF-IDENTITY) / (REMEMBER THE   
   >> SABBATH)   
   >>   
   >> #82 - THE PERSONA: ONE’S SOCIAL MASK (USUALLY MORE THAN ONE) / (HONOUR   
   >> PARENTS)   
   >>   
   >> #123 - THE SELF: THE ORGANIZING PRINCIPLE WITHIN THE PSYCHE / (DO NOT   
   >> KILL) <-- DOMINION #65 + #41 + #17 | #38 + #71 + #14 = #123 SCHEMA   
   >> IMPETUS   
   >>   
   >> #164 - THE SHADOW: THIS DISOWNED SELF (EVERYTHING WE ARE UNCONSCIOUS   
   >> ABOUT OURSELVES) / (AVOID HETERONOMY AGAINST AUTONOMY) / #328 -   
   >> TRANSFORMATIONAL PROTOTYPE   
   >>   
   >> #174 - THE ANIMA / ANIMUS: THE FEMININE ASPECT OF A MAN’S PSYCHE (AND   
   >> VICE VERSA)   
   >>   
   >> #205 (SYNTHESIS) - PRINCIPLE OF PERSISTENCE / #369 - HUMAN   
   >> DISCRIMINATING NORM (probity: DO NOT STEAL)   
   >>   
      
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