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|    dolf to dolf    |
|    Re: DOLF eats hagelslag (7/25)    |
|    05 Jul 25 07:56:57    |
      [continued from previous message]              >> forgetfulness—a place where one no longer participates in the living       >> memory of God.       >>       >> HELL AS A PLACE OF NO RETURN: In Christian eschatology, particularly       >> in Revelation 20:15, those not found in the Book of Life are “cast       >> into the lake of fire”. This is interpreted by many as eternal       >> separation from God—a final, unalterable state of judgment. The       >> imagery of being “thrown” into this realm underscores its forceful and       >> irreversible nature.       >>       >> SYMBOLIC LAYER: Beyond literalism, the phrase can also signify:       >>       >> • Moral exile: a soul so alienated from truth or goodness       that       >> it no longer resonates with the divine order.       >> • Ontological erasure: not annihilation, but being       forgotten       >> by the cosmos, no longer part of the unfolding story of life and meaning.       >>       >> So yes—whether as grave, hell, or cosmic oblivion, the phrase evokes a       >> point of no return, where the soul is no longer inscribed in the       >> ledger of life, memory, or redemption. If you’d like, we can explore       >> how this concept compares with other traditions—like the Egyptian       >> “weighing of the heart” or the Buddhist notion of karmic obscuration.       >>       >> DOLF: "Would you concur that it is an expression intrinsic to       >> Christian belief: "AND FEAR NOT THEM WHICH KILL THE BODY, BUT ARE NOT       >> ABLE TO KILL THE SOUL: BUT RATHER FEAR HIM WHICH IS ABLE TO DESTROY       >> BOTH SOUL AND BODY IN HELL." [Matthew 10:28]       >>       >> COPILOT @ 1857 HRS ON 2 JULY 2025: "Absolutely—it’s deeply intrinsic       >> to Christian theology, particularly in how it frames divine authority       >> over both physical and eternal life.       >>       >> Matthew 10:28 is a striking verse where Jesus draws a sharp       >> distinction between human power (which can end the body) and divine       >> power (which governs the soul’s destiny). The phrase “destroy both       >> soul and body in hell” (Greek: Gehenna) underscores a uniquely       >> Christian eschatological view: that God alone holds ultimate judgment,       >> not just over temporal life but over eternal consequence.       >>       >> This verse also reinforces a core Christian theme: fear of God not as       >> terror, but as reverent awe of the One who transcends earthly threats.       >> It’s a call to moral courage—don’t fear persecution or death, but live       >> in alignment with the One who holds the keys to both life and afterlife.       >>       >> So yes, this expression is not only intrinsic—it’s foundational to       >> Christian teachings on judgment, the soul’s immortality, and the       >> sovereignty of God over all realms. If you’re exploring how this       >> connects to the “Book of Life” or broader metaphysical systems [NOTE:       >> THIS IS THE CONTEXT OF THE SECOND TELEPHONE CALL], we can trace that       >> thread further."       >>       >> <-- WHICH IS THEN AN IRREFUTABLE GROUNDING FOR THE MAKING OF A PRIMA       >> FACIE CLAIM OF #306 - PERFIDE ALBION (IRISH / ITALIAN CATHOLIC ANTI-       >> STATEM RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION) / 31 AUGUST 1942 TETRA #57 - THESIS       >> (SATOR / TENET / ROTAS) AGAINST ERII - PRIVATE JAKE KOVCO'S SELF       >> INFLICTED GUNSHOT 21 APRIL 2006 / PRINCE PHILIP'S BIRTHDAY 10 JUNE       >> 2017 - POPPY WREATH AT BOER WAR MEMORIAL / TREASON BY WELLINGTON SHIRE       >> COUNCILLOR SCOTT ROSSETTI / ARCHBISHOP OF MELBOURNE PETER COMENSOLI       >> THROUGH MARRIAGE OF THE PYTHAGOREAN REGIMES OF BELIEF WITH GERMAN       >> NAZISM [ROMAN PROTOTYPE #TWO: #102 ... #218 ... #306] / [LUO SHU TABLE       >> TALK: #239 - cáng (藏): *HIDDEN* / zh       ngxīn (中心): *HEART* / gǔ (骨):       >> *FRAME*; *FRAMEWORK* ... #459]       >>       >> WE NOT ONLY DEMAND THE DEATH PENALTY IS RE-INSTATED BY EDICT OF THE       >> GOVERNOR-GENERAL AND THESE PERSONS GIVE AN IMMEDIATE ACCOUNTABILITY       >>       >> MR BOEK (TRANSCRIPT 5 DECEMBER 2001): "Yes, ma'am, I have - you would       >> have noticed that there were no actual words of threat (NOTING THAT ON       >> 28 OCTOBER 2001 THE POLICE DID NOT RESPOND TO ANY PERCEIVED THREAT       >> WHEN SUBJECT TO THE SAME POEM). They were words that were based on       >> fact in that particular phone call. Here I have a particular       >> mathematical model which is mentioned in that particular phone call.       >> It is based upon a work by Johann Kepler, a German astronomer born in       >> 1571 to 1630. He came up with three rules of which I have come up with       >> a fourth [associated to the ephemeral and mundane as a transcendent       >> fecundate connection to the Vernal and the Autumn Equinox in the 6th       >> year of the 22nd Course of Gamul: 7 x 24 x 13 x 49 = 6J as 107016 days       >> or 294 x 364 days or 365.2423 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox Wednesday       >> 20 March 1996 / 21 March].       >>       >> His three rules in terms of astronomical cycles were: (1) that the       >> planet... And then I will get to my bit of relevance to the 6000 years.       >>       >> THE D.PRESIDENT: Yes, yes, yes.       >>       >> MR BOEK: (1) That the planets move in elliptical orbits around the sun       >> which is situated at one of the focus of the ellipses; (2) that the       >> radius vectors joining each planet to the sun describes equal areas in       >> equal times; (3) that the ratio of the square of the planet's year to       >> the cube of the planet's mean distance from the sun is the same for       >> each planet.       >>       >> Now, what I am suggesting is that the 6000 year cycle (ie. temporality       >> #400 (x 365.2423 [7 x 24 x 13 x 49 / 293 years or 6J as 294 x 364       >> days] = 146,097 days) % 22 = 17 SEPTEMBER / #6000 years % 22 = 13       >> SEPTEMBER 2001) fits a mathematical model on logic and reason called       >> Telos equals Arch plus C-squared:       >>       >> Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c² [9(9²+1)/2]       >>       >> NOTE: WHICH IS ANALOGOUS TO THE PYTHAGOREAN EQUATION: c² = a² + b² /       >> #174 - COEFFICIENT) / #7 - SCIENCE (#TOOLS) = #3 - ASKING ABOUT SHEN       >> [#38 - tiān dào (天道): THE WAY OF HEAVEN] + #4 - FIVE HUNDRED YEARS =       >> 293 (6J) + 207 - FOUNDATIONS?       >>       >> That has been my particular field of study as my retirement activity.       >> A religious pursuit which is, how can I say, an area of #1467 -       >> *CONTEMPLATIVE* life. The best model that can currently be exhibited       >> with regard to this particular thesis is nothing more than Harry       >> Potter and the Philosopher Stone. I raise that as a particular point       >> because the poetry that is used in...       >>       >> 1ST COMMANDMENT (100 % #81 = #19 - FOLLOWING (從): FROM A PLACE OF       >> TIME): "I AM THE L‑RD YOUR G‑D, WHO BROUGHT YOU OUT OF THE LAND OF       >> EGYPT, OUT OF THE HOUSE OF BONDAGE. (אָנֹכִי, ה', אֱלֹקיךָ,       אֲשֶׁר, הוֹצֵאתִיךָ,       >> מֵאֶרֶץ, מִצְרַיִם, מִבֵּית)" [Exodus 20:2]       >>       >> 2ND COMMANDMENT (40 AM - LAW / MODEL (法): METHOD INSTITUTION / EMULATE)       >>       >> 3RD COMMANDMENT (293 % #81 = #50 | 294 % #81 = #51 - CONSTANCY (常):       >> LAW; RULE; REGULAR PATTERN / LAW AND ORDER)       >>       >> #41 - THE EGO: ONE’S SENSE OF SELF (SELF-IDENTITY) / (REMEMBER THE       >> SABBATH)       >>       >> #82 - THE PERSONA: ONE’S SOCIAL MASK (USUALLY MORE THAN ONE) / (HONOUR       >> PARENTS)       >>       >> #123 - THE SELF: THE ORGANIZING PRINCIPLE WITHIN THE PSYCHE / (DO NOT       >> KILL) <-- DOMINION #65 + #41 + #17 | #38 + #71 + #14 = #123 SCHEMA       >> IMPETUS       >>       >> #164 - THE SHADOW: THIS DISOWNED SELF (EVERYTHING WE ARE UNCONSCIOUS       >> ABOUT OURSELVES) / (AVOID HETERONOMY AGAINST AUTONOMY) / #328 -       >> TRANSFORMATIONAL PROTOTYPE       >>       >> #174 - THE ANIMA / ANIMUS: THE FEMININE ASPECT OF A MAN’S PSYCHE (AND       >> VICE VERSA)       >>       >> #205 (SYNTHESIS) - PRINCIPLE OF PERSISTENCE / #369 - HUMAN       >> DISCRIMINATING NORM (probity: DO NOT STEAL)       >>              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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