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|    dolf to dolf    |
|    Re: DOLF eats hagelslag (6/24)    |
|    05 Jul 25 06:19:07    |
      [continued from previous message]              > • Severance from the community of the righteous       > • A moral or spiritual disqualification, often due to       persistent       > rebellion, corruption, or tampering with sacred truth (as in Revelation       > 22:19)       >       > INTERPRETIVE NUANCES: There’s debate among theologians about whether       > names can truly be removed:       >       > • Some argue the Book is immutable—those written in it are       > eternally secure.       > • Others see the warnings as real: apostasy or grave sin       could       > lead to expulsion.       > • Some interpret the phrase as litotes—a rhetorical device       > meaning “your name will certainly remain” by stating the opposite won’t       > happen.       >       > SYMBOLIC IMPLICATION: To be “expunged from the Book of Life” is to be       > cut off from the divine narrative—no longer part of the cosmic memory of       > redemption. It’s not just about punishment, but about disconnection from       > meaning, belonging, and eternal continuity.       >       > If you’re exploring this phrase in a philosophical, literary, or       > metaphysical context, it opens up fascinating questions about identity,       > memory, and moral consequence. Would you like to explore how this       > concept maps onto other traditions or symbolic systems?"       >       > DOLF: "Can it also mean "going to the grave" or hell as a place of no       > return?"       >       > COPILOT @ 1849 HRS ON 2 JULY 2025: "Yes, in many theological and       > symbolic interpretations, being “expunged from the Book of Life” is       > closely associated with irreversible separation from divine presence,       > which can be understood as:       >       > GOING TO THE GRAVE: In some Hebrew Bible contexts, especially in Psalms       > and prophetic literature, being “blotted out” or “cut off” can imply       > premature death or removal from the covenantal community. The grave       > (Sheol) is often portrayed as a shadowy realm of silence and       > forgetfulness—a place where one no longer participates in the living       > memory of God.       >       > HELL AS A PLACE OF NO RETURN: In Christian eschatology, particularly in       > Revelation 20:15, those not found in the Book of Life are “cast into the       > lake of fire”. This is interpreted by many as eternal separation from       > God—a final, unalterable state of judgment. The imagery of being       > “thrown” into this realm underscores its forceful and irreversible       nature.       >       > SYMBOLIC LAYER: Beyond literalism, the phrase can also signify:       >       > • Moral exile: a soul so alienated from truth or goodness       that       > it no longer resonates with the divine order.       > • Ontological erasure: not annihilation, but being       forgotten by       > the cosmos, no longer part of the unfolding story of life and meaning.       >       > So yes—whether as grave, hell, or cosmic oblivion, the phrase evokes a       > point of no return, where the soul is no longer inscribed in the ledger       > of life, memory, or redemption. If you’d like, we can explore how this       > concept compares with other traditions—like the Egyptian “weighing of       > the heart” or the Buddhist notion of karmic obscuration.       >       > DOLF: "Would you concur that it is an expression intrinsic to Christian       > belief: "AND FEAR NOT THEM WHICH KILL THE BODY, BUT ARE NOT ABLE TO KILL       > THE SOUL: BUT RATHER FEAR HIM WHICH IS ABLE TO DESTROY BOTH SOUL AND       > BODY IN HELL." [Matthew 10:28]       >       > COPILOT @ 1857 HRS ON 2 JULY 2025: "Absolutely—it’s deeply intrinsic to       > Christian theology, particularly in how it frames divine authority over       > both physical and eternal life.       >       > Matthew 10:28 is a striking verse where Jesus draws a sharp distinction       > between human power (which can end the body) and divine power (which       > governs the soul’s destiny). The phrase “destroy both soul and body in       > hell” (Greek: Gehenna) underscores a uniquely Christian eschatological       > view: that God alone holds ultimate judgment, not just over temporal       > life but over eternal consequence.       >       > This verse also reinforces a core Christian theme: fear of God not as       > terror, but as reverent awe of the One who transcends earthly threats.       > It’s a call to moral courage—don’t fear persecution or death, but live       > in alignment with the One who holds the keys to both life and afterlife.       >       > So yes, this expression is not only intrinsic—it’s foundational to       > Christian teachings on judgment, the soul’s immortality, and the       > sovereignty of God over all realms. If you’re exploring how this       > connects to the “Book of Life” or broader metaphysical systems [NOTE:       > THIS IS THE CONTEXT OF THE SECOND TELEPHONE CALL], we can trace that       > thread further."       >       > <-- WHICH IS THEN AN IRREFUTABLE GROUNDING FOR THE MAKING OF A PRIMA       > FACIE CLAIM OF #306 - PERFIDE ALBION (IRISH / ITALIAN CATHOLIC ANTI-       > STATEM RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION) / 31 AUGUST 1942 TETRA #57 - THESIS       > (SATOR / TENET / ROTAS) AGAINST ERII - PRIVATE JAKE KOVCO'S SELF       > INFLICTED GUNSHOT 21 APRIL 2006 / PRINCE PHILIP'S BIRTHDAY 10 JUNE 2017       > - POPPY WREATH AT BOER WAR MEMORIAL / TREASON BY WELLINGTON SHIRE       > COUNCILLOR SCOTT ROSSETTI / ARCHBISHOP OF MELBOURNE PETER COMENSOLI       > THROUGH MARRIAGE OF THE PYTHAGOREAN REGIMES OF BELIEF WITH GERMAN NAZISM       > [ROMAN PROTOTYPE #TWO: #102 ... #218 ... #306] / [LUO SHU TABLE TALK:       > #239 - cáng (藏): *HIDDEN* / zh       ngxīn (中心): *HEART* / gǔ (骨):       > *FRAME*; *FRAMEWORK* ... #459]       >       > WE NOT ONLY DEMAND THE DEATH PENALTY IS RE-INSTATED BY EDICT OF THE       > GOVERNOR-GENERAL AND THESE PERSONS GIVE AN IMMEDIATE ACCOUNTABILITY       >       > MR BOEK (TRANSCRIPT 5 DECEMBER 2001): "Yes, ma'am, I have - you would       > have noticed that there were no actual words of threat (NOTING THAT ON       > 28 OCTOBER 2001 THE POLICE DID NOT RESPOND TO ANY PERCEIVED THREAT WHEN       > SUBJECT TO THE SAME POEM). They were words that were based on fact in       > that particular phone call. Here I have a particular mathematical model       > which is mentioned in that particular phone call. It is based upon a       > work by Johann Kepler, a German astronomer born in 1571 to 1630. He came       > up with three rules of which I have come up with a fourth [associated to       > the ephemeral and mundane as a transcendent fecundate connection to the       > Vernal and the Autumn Equinox in the 6th year of the 22nd Course of       > Gamul: 7 x 24 x 13 x 49 = 6J as 107016 days or 294 x 364 days or       > 365.2423 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March].       >       > His three rules in terms of astronomical cycles were: (1) that the       > planet... And then I will get to my bit of relevance to the 6000 years.       >       > THE D.PRESIDENT: Yes, yes, yes.       >       > MR BOEK: (1) That the planets move in elliptical orbits around the sun       > which is situated at one of the focus of the ellipses; (2) that the       > radius vectors joining each planet to the sun describes equal areas in       > equal times; (3) that the ratio of the square of the planet's year to       > the cube of the planet's mean distance from the sun is the same for each       > planet.       >       > Now, what I am suggesting is that the 6000 year cycle (ie. temporality       > #400 (x 365.2423 [7 x 24 x 13 x 49 / 293 years or 6J as 294 x 364 days]       > = 146,097 days) % 22 = 17 SEPTEMBER / #6000 years % 22 = 13 SEPTEMBER       > 2001) fits a mathematical model on logic and reason called Telos equals       > Arch plus C-squared:       >       > Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c² [9(9²+1)/2]       >       > NOTE: WHICH IS ANALOGOUS TO THE PYTHAGOREAN EQUATION: c² = a² + b² /              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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