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   dolf to dolf   
   Re: DOLF eats hagelslag (23/34)   
   10 Jul 25 09:25:04   
   
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   >>>>>>>> – and thus far is the faculty of a being which itself belongs to   
   >>>>>>>> appearances – but that also is related to objective grounds that   
   >>>>>>>> are mere ideas, insofar as these ideas can determine this   
   >>>>>>>> faculty, a connection that is expressed by ought.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> This faculty is called reason, and insofar as we are considering   
   >>>>>>>> a being (the human being) solely as regards this objectively   
   >>>>>>>> determinable reason, this being cannot be considered as a being   
   >>>>>>>> of the senses; rather, the aforesaid property is the property of   
   >>>>>>>> a thing in itself, and the possibility of that property –   
   >>>>>>>> namely, how the ought, which has never yet happened, can   
   >>>>>>>> determine the activity of this being and can be the cause of   
   >>>>>>>> actions whose effect is an appearance in the sensible world – we   
   >>>>>>>> cannot comprehend at all. Yet the causality of reason with   
   >>>>>>>> respect to effects in the sensible world would nonetheless be   
   >>>>>>>> freedom, insofar as objective grounds, which are themselves   
   >>>>>>>> ideas, are taken to be determining with respect to that   
   >>>>>>>> causality. For the action of that causality would in that case   
   >>>>>>>> not depend on any subjective, hence also not on any temporal   
   >>>>>>>> conditions, and would therefore also not depend on the natural   
   >>>>>>>> law that serves to determine those conditions, because grounds   
   >>>>>>>> of reason provide the rule for actions universally, from   
   >>>>>>>> principles, without influence from the circumstances of time or   
   >>>>>>>> place.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> What I adduce here counts only as an example, for   
   >>>>>>>> intelligibility, and does not belong necessarily to our   
   >>>>>>>> question, which must be decided from mere concepts independently   
   >>>>>>>> of properties that we find in the actual world.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I can now say without contradiction: all actions of rational   
   >>>>>>>> beings, insofar as they are appearances (are encountered in some   
   >>>>>>>> experience or other), are subject to natural necessity; but the   
   >>>>>>>> very same actions, with respect only to the rational subject and   
   >>>>>>>> its faculty of acting in accordance with bare reason, are free.   
   >>>>>>>> What, then, is required for natural necessity? Nothing more than   
   >>>>>>>> the determinability of every event in the sensible world   
   >>>>>>>> according to constant laws, and therefore a relation to a cause   
   >>>>>>>> within appearance; whereby the underlying thing in itself and   
   >>>>>>>> its causality remain unknown. But I say: the law of nature   
   >>>>>>>> remains, whether the rational being be a cause of effects in the   
   >>>>>>>> sensible world through reason and hence through freedom, or   
   >>>>>>>> whether that being does not determine such effects through   
   >>>>>>>> rational grounds. For if the first is the case, the action takes   
   >>>>>>>> place according to maxims whose effect within appearance will   
   >>>>>>>> always conform to constant laws; if the second is the case, and   
   >>>>>>>> the action does not take [IDEA #346] place according to   
   >>>>>>>> principles of reason, then it is subject to the empirical laws   
   >>>>>>>> of sensibility, and in both cases the effects are connected   
   >>>>>>>> according to constant laws; but we require nothing more for   
   >>>>>>>> natural necessity, and indeed know nothing more of it. In the   
   >>>>>>>> first case, however, reason is the cause of these natural laws   
   >>>>>>>> and is therefore free, in the second case the effects flow   
   >>>>>>>> according to mere natural laws of sensibility, because reason   
   >>>>>>>> exercises no influence on them; but, because of this, reason is   
   >>>>>>>> not itself determined by sensibility (which is impossible), and   
   >>>>>>>> it is therefore also free in this case. Therefore freedom does   
   >>>>>>>> not impede the natural law of appearances, any more than this   
   >>>>>>>> law interferes with the freedom of the practical use of reason,   
   >>>>>>>> a use that stands in connection with things in themselves as   
   >>>>>>>> determining grounds." [pages 93-97]   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> DOLF: "How is the notion of a civil society related to the   
   >>>>>>>> inherent human disposition of animus / anima and does such   
   >>>>>>>> dynamic suggest there is an ontic #22 - jié (結): *FORMATIONAL*   
   >>>>>>>> (circumscribed as bounding) #135 - níng (凝): *CONGEALING* /   
   >>>>>>>> [#56, #79] concept of facilitated arbitration as #174 -   
   >>>>>>>> CYBERNETIC SYSTEMIC / ANTHROPOMORPHIC PRINCIPLE which when   
   >>>>>>>> disordered possesses an attenuated #152 / #174 - yí (疑):   
   >>>>>>>> *DEFICIENCY* / [#29, #61, #62, #22] that may in a chronic   
   >>>>>>>> ontological state be regarded as either delinquency or   
   >>>>>>>> reprobation?"   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> CAN REFUSAL OF COMMUNION BY IRISH CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP PELL ON BOER   
   >>>>> WAR MEMORIAL DAY / PENTECOST SUNDAY 31 MAY 1998 BE BROUGHT BEFORE   
   >>>>> THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Instances of the most serious international crimes, such as war   
   >>>>> crimes, crimes of aggression, genocide and crime against humanity   
   >>>>> (eg: RECLAIM THE #1827 - EUCHARIST / PENTECOST FROM    
    - SWASTIKA   
   >>>>> OBSTRUCTION / BABYLONIAN [#314 - mágos (G3097): *WISE* *MEN* / #335   
   >>>>> - Kasday (H3779): CHALDEAN / #87 - BABYLONIAN KING (circa 721 BC)   
   >>>>> as [#2 - FULL CIRCLE (周), #30 - BOLD RESOLUTION (毅), #1 - CENTRE   
   >>>>> (中), #4 - BARRIER (閑), #50 - VASTNESS / WASTING (唐)] being ANTI-   
   >>>>> STATISM ARTIFICE as UNCONSTITUTIONAL: SECTION II: UNALIENABLE   
   >>>>> RIGHTS TRANSFERENCE PROTOCOL ] PERSECUTION OF JEWISH - CHRISTIANS   
   >>>>> AS SUBSTANTIATED CLAIM TO BELIEF #100 + 40 AM as 3860 BCE + 20 x   
   >>>>> (293 x 365.2423 TROPICAL YEARS | 294 x 364 | 6J) + 1 (NO 0 CE)  =   
   >>>>> 2001 CE (NEW MOON 20 MARCH 1996 + 5 x 364 + 182 = 12 SEPTEMBER 2001   
   >>>>> + 182 = NEW MOON 13 / 14 MARCH 2002), can be brought before the   
   >>>>> International Criminal Court, a permanent international tribunal.   
   >>>>> It was established by the ROME STATUTE adopted 17 JULY 1998.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> On 11 APRIL 2002, ten countries ratified the statute at the same   
   >>>>> time at a special ceremony held at the United Nations headquarters   
   >>>>> in New York City,[21] bringing the total number of signatories to   
   >>>>> sixty, which was the minimum number required to bring the statute   
   >>>>> into force, as defined in Article 126. The treaty entered into   
   >>>>> force on 1 July 2002; the ICC can only prosecute crimes committed   
   >>>>> (vis a vis in support of the EUCHARIST / PENTECOST FROM    
    -   
   >>>>> SWASTIKA OBSTRUCTION as ANTI-STATISM impetus HIJACKING ANZAC   
   >>>>> CENTENNIAL 2018 BY MARTIN TANZER, ROSS JACKSON - RETURNED SERVICES   
   >>>>> LEAGUE / DARREN CHESTER / WELLINGTON SHIRE COUNCI ANTI-SEMITISM /   
   >>>>> VISCERAL RACIAL HATRED AS PERSECUTION) on or after that date. and   
   >>>>> entered into force  JULY 2002.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>    
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>    
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> [IMAGE SOURCE: Victorian Honour Roll of Women (2011) Inspirational   
   >>>>> women from all walks of life]   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> SYNAPSE QUOTIENT FOR CONSIDERATION IN MAKING AN ACCUSATION OF   
   >>>>> CONTEMN (WHITE COLONIAL IMPERIALIST / HISTORICAL ANTI-STATISM   
   >>>>> REVISIONIST AS NON DIFFERENTIATED CHRISTO-FASCISM EXCEPTING BY   
   >>>>> HAUGHTY SELF- ENTITLEMENT) AGAINST DOCTOR DIANE SISELY VEOC   
   >>>>> (1994-2004): Given that the CENTRAL PREMISE to this SAPIENT   
   >>>>> UTILITARIAN / TEMPORAL DYNAMIC is the mathematical meta-descriptive   
      
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