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| Re: DOLF eats hagelslag (22/42) |
| 11 Jul 25 06:57:03 |
[continued from previous message] >>>>>>> to be cut off from the divine narrative—no longer part of the >>>>>>> cosmic memory of redemption. It’s not just about punishment, but >>>>>>> about disconnection from meaning, belonging, and eternal continuity. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you’re exploring this phrase in a philosophical, literary, or >>>>>>> metaphysical context, it opens up fascinating questions about >>>>>>> identity, memory, and moral consequence. Would you like to >>>>>>> explore how this concept maps onto other traditions or symbolic >>>>>>> systems?" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> DOLF: "Can it also mean "going to the grave" or hell as a place >>>>>>> of no return?" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> COPILOT @ 1849 HRS ON 2 JULY 2025: "Yes, in many theological and >>>>>>> symbolic interpretations, being “expunged from the Book of Life” >>>>>>> is closely associated with irreversible separation from divine >>>>>>> presence, which can be understood as: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> GOING TO THE GRAVE: In some Hebrew Bible contexts, especially in >>>>>>> Psalms and prophetic literature, being “blotted out” or “cut off” >>>>>>> can imply premature death or removal from the covenantal >>>>>>> community. The grave (Sheol) is often portrayed as a shadowy >>>>>>> realm of silence and forgetfulness—a place where one no longer >>>>>>> participates in the living memory of God. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HELL AS A PLACE OF NO RETURN: In Christian eschatology, >>>>>>> particularly in Revelation 20:15, those not found in the Book of >>>>>>> Life are “cast into the lake of fire”. This is interpreted by >>>>>>> many as eternal separation from God—a final, unalterable state of >>>>>>> judgment. The imagery of being “thrown” into this realm >>>>>>> underscores its forceful and irreversible nature. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> SYMBOLIC LAYER: Beyond literalism, the phrase can also signify: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> • Moral exile: a soul so alienated from truth or goodness >>>>>>> that it no longer resonates with the divine order. >>>>>>> • Ontological erasure: not annihilation, but being >>>>>>> forgotten by the cosmos, no longer part of the unfolding story of >>>>>>> life and meaning. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So yes—whether as grave, hell, or cosmic oblivion, the phrase >>>>>>> evokes a point of no return, where the soul is no longer >>>>>>> inscribed in the ledger of life, memory, or redemption. If you’d >>>>>>> like, we can explore how this concept compares with other >>>>>>> traditions—like the Egyptian “weighing of the heart” or the >>>>>>> Buddhist notion of karmic obscuration. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> DOLF: "Would you concur that it is an expression intrinsic to >>>>>>> Christian belief: "AND FEAR NOT THEM WHICH KILL THE BODY, BUT ARE >>>>>>> NOT ABLE TO KILL THE SOUL: BUT RATHER FEAR HIM WHICH IS ABLE TO >>>>>>> DESTROY BOTH SOUL AND BODY IN HELL." [Matthew 10:28] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> COPILOT @ 1857 HRS ON 2 JULY 2025: "Absolutely—it’s deeply >>>>>>> intrinsic to Christian theology, particularly in how it frames >>>>>>> divine authority over both physical and eternal life. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Matthew 10:28 is a striking verse where Jesus draws a sharp >>>>>>> distinction between human power (which can end the body) and >>>>>>> divine power (which governs the soul’s destiny). The phrase >>>>>>> “destroy both soul and body in hell” (Greek: Gehenna) underscores >>>>>>> a uniquely Christian eschatological view: that God alone holds >>>>>>> ultimate judgment, not just over temporal life but over eternal >>>>>>> consequence. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This verse also reinforces a core Christian theme: fear of God >>>>>>> not as terror, but as reverent awe of the One who transcends >>>>>>> earthly threats. It’s a call to moral courage—don’t fear >>>>>>> persecution or death, but live in alignment with the One who >>>>>>> holds the keys to both life and afterlife. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So yes, this expression is not only intrinsic—it’s foundational >>>>>>> to Christian teachings on judgment, the soul’s immortality, and >>>>>>> the sovereignty of God over all realms. If you’re exploring how >>>>>>> this connects to the “Book of Life” or broader metaphysical >>>>>>> systems [NOTE: THIS IS THE CONTEXT OF THE SECOND TELEPHONE CALL], >>>>>>> we can trace that thread further." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <-- WHICH IS THEN AN IRREFUTABLE GROUNDING FOR THE MAKING OF A >>>>>>> PRIMA FACIE CLAIM OF #306 - PERFIDE ALBION (IRISH / ITALIAN >>>>>>> CATHOLIC ANTI- STATEM RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION) / 31 AUGUST 1942 >>>>>>> TETRA #57 - THESIS (SATOR / TENET / ROTAS) AGAINST ERII - PRIVATE >>>>>>> JAKE KOVCO'S SELF INFLICTED GUNSHOT 21 APRIL 2006 / PRINCE >>>>>>> PHILIP'S BIRTHDAY 10 JUNE 2017 - POPPY WREATH AT BOER WAR >>>>>>> MEMORIAL / TREASON BY WELLINGTON SHIRE COUNCILLOR SCOTT >>>>>>> ROSSETTI / ARCHBISHOP OF MELBOURNE PETER COMENSOLI THROUGH >>>>>>> MARRIAGE OF THE PYTHAGOREAN REGIMES OF BELIEF WITH GERMAN NAZISM >>>>>>> [ROMAN PROTOTYPE #TWO: #102 ... #218 ... #306] / [LUO SHU TABLE >>>>>>> TALK: #239 - cáng (藏): *HIDDEN* / zh ngxīn (中心): *HEART* / gǔ >>>>>>> (骨): *FRAME*; *FRAMEWORK* ... #459] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WE NOT ONLY DEMAND THE DEATH PENALTY IS RE-INSTATED BY EDICT OF >>>>>>> THE GOVERNOR-GENERAL AND THESE PERSONS GIVE AN IMMEDIATE >>>>>>> ACCOUNTABILITY >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MR BOEK (TRANSCRIPT 5 DECEMBER 2001): "Yes, ma'am, I have - you >>>>>>> would have noticed that there were no actual words of threat >>>>>>> (NOTING THAT ON 28 OCTOBER 2001 THE POLICE DID NOT RESPOND TO ANY >>>>>>> PERCEIVED THREAT WHEN SUBJECT TO THE SAME POEM). They were words >>>>>>> that were based on fact in that particular phone call. Here I >>>>>>> have a particular mathematical model which is mentioned in that >>>>>>> particular phone call. It is based upon a work by Johann Kepler, >>>>>>> a German astronomer born in 1571 to 1630. He came up with three >>>>>>> rules of which I have come up with a fourth [associated to the >>>>>>> ephemeral and mundane as a transcendent fecundate connection to >>>>>>> the Vernal and the Autumn Equinox in the 6th year of the 22nd >>>>>>> Course of Gamul: 7 x 24 x 13 x 49 = 6J as 107016 days or 294 x >>>>>>> 364 days or 365.2423 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox Wednesday 20 >>>>>>> March 1996 / 21 March]. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> His three rules in terms of astronomical cycles were: (1) that >>>>>>> the planet... And then I will get to my bit of relevance to the >>>>>>> 6000 years. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> THE D.PRESIDENT: Yes, yes, yes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MR BOEK: (1) That the planets move in elliptical orbits around >>>>>>> the sun which is situated at one of the focus of the ellipses; >>>>>>> (2) that the radius vectors joining each planet to the sun >>>>>>> describes equal areas in equal times; (3) that the ratio of the >>>>>>> square of the planet's year to the cube of the planet's mean >>>>>>> distance from the sun is the same for each planet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, what I am suggesting is that the 6000 year cycle (ie. >>>>>>> temporality #400 (x 365.2423 [7 x 24 x 13 x 49 / 293 years or 6J >>>>>>> as 294 x 364 days] = 146,097 days) % 22 = 17 SEPTEMBER / #6000 >>>>>>> years % 22 = 13 SEPTEMBER 2001) fits a mathematical model on >>>>>>> logic and reason called Telos equals Arch plus C-squared: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c² [9(9²+1)/2] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NOTE: WHICH IS ANALOGOUS TO THE PYTHAGOREAN EQUATION: c² = a² + [continued in next message] --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) |
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