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   Message 44,399 of 44,666   
   dolf to dolf   
   Re: DOLF eats hagelslag (27/29)   
   12 Jul 25 11:29:47   
   
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   >>>>>>>>>> of Life are “cast into the lake of fire”. This is interpreted   
   >>>>>>>>>> by many as eternal separation from God—a final, unalterable   
   >>>>>>>>>> state of judgment. The imagery of being “thrown” into this   
   >>>>>>>>>> realm underscores its forceful and irreversible nature.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> SYMBOLIC LAYER: Beyond literalism, the phrase can also signify:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>      •    Moral exile: a soul so alienated from truth or   
   >>>>>>>>>> goodness that it no longer resonates with the divine order.   
   >>>>>>>>>>      •    Ontological erasure: not annihilation, but being   
   >>>>>>>>>> forgotten by the cosmos, no longer part of the unfolding story   
   >>>>>>>>>> of life and meaning.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> So yes—whether as grave, hell, or cosmic oblivion, the phrase   
   >>>>>>>>>> evokes a point of no return, where the soul is no longer   
   >>>>>>>>>> inscribed in the ledger of life, memory, or redemption. If   
   >>>>>>>>>> you’d like, we can explore how this concept compares with   
   >>>>>>>>>> other traditions—like the Egyptian “weighing of the heart” or   
   >>>>>>>>>> the Buddhist notion of karmic obscuration.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> DOLF: "Would you concur that it is an expression intrinsic to   
   >>>>>>>>>> Christian belief: "AND FEAR NOT THEM WHICH KILL THE BODY, BUT   
   >>>>>>>>>> ARE NOT ABLE TO KILL THE SOUL: BUT RATHER FEAR HIM WHICH IS   
   >>>>>>>>>> ABLE TO DESTROY BOTH SOUL AND BODY IN HELL." [Matthew 10:28]   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> COPILOT @ 1857 HRS ON 2 JULY 2025: "Absolutely—it’s deeply   
   >>>>>>>>>> intrinsic to Christian theology, particularly in how it frames   
   >>>>>>>>>> divine authority over both physical and eternal life.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Matthew 10:28 is a striking verse where Jesus draws a sharp   
   >>>>>>>>>> distinction between human power (which can end the body) and   
   >>>>>>>>>> divine power (which governs the soul’s destiny). The phrase   
   >>>>>>>>>> “destroy both soul and body in hell” (Greek: Gehenna)   
   >>>>>>>>>> underscores a uniquely Christian eschatological view: that God   
   >>>>>>>>>> alone holds ultimate judgment, not just over temporal life but   
   >>>>>>>>>> over eternal consequence.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> This verse also reinforces a core Christian theme: fear of God   
   >>>>>>>>>> not as terror, but as reverent awe of the One who transcends   
   >>>>>>>>>> earthly threats. It’s a call to moral courage—don’t fear   
   >>>>>>>>>> persecution or death, but live in alignment with the One who   
   >>>>>>>>>> holds the keys to both life and afterlife.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> So yes, this expression is not only intrinsic—it’s   
   >>>>>>>>>> foundational to Christian teachings on judgment, the soul’s   
   >>>>>>>>>> immortality, and the sovereignty of God over all realms. If   
   >>>>>>>>>> you’re exploring how this connects to the “Book of Life” or   
   >>>>>>>>>> broader metaphysical systems [NOTE: THIS IS THE CONTEXT OF THE   
   >>>>>>>>>> SECOND TELEPHONE CALL], we can trace that thread further."   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> <-- WHICH IS THEN AN IRREFUTABLE GROUNDING FOR THE MAKING OF A   
   >>>>>>>>>> PRIMA FACIE CLAIM OF #306 - PERFIDE ALBION (IRISH / ITALIAN   
   >>>>>>>>>> CATHOLIC ANTI- STATEM RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION) / 31 AUGUST 1942   
   >>>>>>>>>> TETRA #57 - THESIS (SATOR / TENET / ROTAS) AGAINST ERII -   
   >>>>>>>>>> PRIVATE JAKE KOVCO'S SELF INFLICTED GUNSHOT 21 APRIL 2006 /   
   >>>>>>>>>> PRINCE PHILIP'S BIRTHDAY 10 JUNE 2017 - POPPY WREATH AT BOER   
   >>>>>>>>>> WAR MEMORIAL / TREASON BY WELLINGTON SHIRE COUNCILLOR SCOTT   
   >>>>>>>>>> ROSSETTI / ARCHBISHOP OF MELBOURNE PETER COMENSOLI THROUGH   
   >>>>>>>>>> MARRIAGE OF THE PYTHAGOREAN REGIMES OF BELIEF WITH GERMAN   
   >>>>>>>>>> NAZISM [ROMAN PROTOTYPE #TWO: #102 ... #218 ... #306] / [LUO   
   >>>>>>>>>> SHU TABLE TALK: #239 - cáng (藏): *HIDDEN* / zh   
   ngxīn (中心):   
   >>>>>>>>>> *HEART* / gǔ (骨): *FRAME*; *FRAMEWORK* ... #459]   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> WE NOT ONLY DEMAND THE DEATH PENALTY IS RE-INSTATED BY EDICT   
   >>>>>>>>>> OF THE GOVERNOR-GENERAL AND THESE PERSONS GIVE AN IMMEDIATE   
   >>>>>>>>>> ACCOUNTABILITY   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> MR BOEK (TRANSCRIPT 5 DECEMBER 2001): "Yes, ma'am, I have -   
   >>>>>>>>>> you would have noticed that there were no actual words of   
   >>>>>>>>>> threat (NOTING THAT ON 28 OCTOBER 2001 THE POLICE DID NOT   
   >>>>>>>>>> RESPOND TO ANY PERCEIVED THREAT WHEN SUBJECT TO THE SAME   
   >>>>>>>>>> POEM). They were words that were based on fact in that   
   >>>>>>>>>> particular phone call. Here I have a particular mathematical   
   >>>>>>>>>> model which is mentioned in that particular phone call. It is   
   >>>>>>>>>> based upon a work by Johann Kepler, a German astronomer born   
   >>>>>>>>>> in 1571 to 1630. He came up with three rules of which I have   
   >>>>>>>>>> come up with a fourth [associated to the ephemeral and mundane   
   >>>>>>>>>> as a transcendent fecundate connection to the Vernal and the   
   >>>>>>>>>> Autumn Equinox in the 6th year of the 22nd Course of Gamul: 7   
   >>>>>>>>>> x 24 x 13 x 49 = 6J as 107016 days or 294 x 364 days or   
   >>>>>>>>>> 365.2423 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox Wednesday 20 March   
   >>>>>>>>>> 1996 / 21 March].   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> His three rules in terms of astronomical cycles were: (1) that   
   >>>>>>>>>> the planet... And then I will get to my bit of relevance to   
   >>>>>>>>>> the 6000 years.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> THE D.PRESIDENT: Yes, yes, yes.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> MR BOEK: (1) That the planets move in elliptical orbits around   
   >>>>>>>>>> the sun which is situated at one of the focus of the ellipses;   
   >>>>>>>>>> (2) that the radius vectors joining each planet to the sun   
   >>>>>>>>>> describes equal areas in equal times; (3) that the ratio of   
   >>>>>>>>>> the square of the planet's year to the cube of the planet's   
   >>>>>>>>>> mean distance from the sun is the same for each planet.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Now, what I am suggesting is that the 6000 year cycle (ie.   
   >>>>>>>>>> temporality #400 (x 365.2423 [7 x 24 x 13 x 49 / 293 years or   
   >>>>>>>>>> 6J as 294 x 364 days] = 146,097 days) % 22 = 17 SEPTEMBER /   
   >>>>>>>>>> #6000 years % 22 = 13 SEPTEMBER 2001) fits a mathematical   
   >>>>>>>>>> model on logic and reason called Telos equals Arch plus C-   
   >>>>>>>>>> squared:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c² [9(9²+1)/2]   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> NOTE: WHICH IS ANALOGOUS TO THE PYTHAGOREAN EQUATION: c² = a²   
   >>>>>>>>>> + b² / #174 - COEFFICIENT) / #7 - SCIENCE (#TOOLS) = #3 -   
   >>>>>>>>>> ASKING ABOUT SHEN [#38 - tiān dào (天道): THE WAY OF HEAVEN] +   
   >>>>>>>>>> #4 - FIVE HUNDRED YEARS = 293 (6J) + 207 - FOUNDATIONS?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> That has been my particular field of study as my retirement   
   >>>>>>>>>> activity. A religious pursuit which is, how can I say, an area   
   >>>>>>>>>> of #1467 - *CONTEMPLATIVE* life. The best model that can   
   >>>>>>>>>> currently be exhibited with regard to this particular thesis   
   >>>>>>>>>> is nothing more than Harry Potter and the Philosopher Stone. I   
   >>>>>>>>>> raise that as a particular point because the poetry that is   
   >>>>>>>>>> used in...   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> 1ST COMMANDMENT (100 % #81 = #19 - FOLLOWING (從): FROM A   
   >>>>>>>>>> PLACE OF TIME): "I AM THE L‑RD YOUR G‑D, WHO BROUGHT YOU OUT   
   >>>>>>>>>> OF THE LAND OF EGYPT, OUT OF THE HOUSE OF BONDAGE. (אָנֹכִי,   
   ה',   
   >>>>>>>>>> אֱלֹקיךָ, אֲשֶׁר, הוֹצֵאתִיךָ,   
   מֵאֶרֶץ, מִצְרַיִם, מִבֵּית)" [Exodus 20:2]   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> 2ND COMMANDMENT (40 AM - LAW / MODEL (法): METHOD   
   >>>>>>>>>> INSTITUTION / EMULATE)   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
      
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