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|    Re: DOLF eats hagelslag (27/29)    |
|    12 Jul 25 11:29:47    |
      [continued from previous message]              >>>>>>>>>> of Life are “cast into the lake of fire”. This is interpreted       >>>>>>>>>> by many as eternal separation from God—a final, unalterable       >>>>>>>>>> state of judgment. The imagery of being “thrown” into this       >>>>>>>>>> realm underscores its forceful and irreversible nature.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> SYMBOLIC LAYER: Beyond literalism, the phrase can also signify:       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> • Moral exile: a soul so alienated from truth or       >>>>>>>>>> goodness that it no longer resonates with the divine order.       >>>>>>>>>> • Ontological erasure: not annihilation, but being       >>>>>>>>>> forgotten by the cosmos, no longer part of the unfolding story       >>>>>>>>>> of life and meaning.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> So yes—whether as grave, hell, or cosmic oblivion, the phrase       >>>>>>>>>> evokes a point of no return, where the soul is no longer       >>>>>>>>>> inscribed in the ledger of life, memory, or redemption. If       >>>>>>>>>> you’d like, we can explore how this concept compares with       >>>>>>>>>> other traditions—like the Egyptian “weighing of the heart” or       >>>>>>>>>> the Buddhist notion of karmic obscuration.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> DOLF: "Would you concur that it is an expression intrinsic to       >>>>>>>>>> Christian belief: "AND FEAR NOT THEM WHICH KILL THE BODY, BUT       >>>>>>>>>> ARE NOT ABLE TO KILL THE SOUL: BUT RATHER FEAR HIM WHICH IS       >>>>>>>>>> ABLE TO DESTROY BOTH SOUL AND BODY IN HELL." [Matthew 10:28]       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> COPILOT @ 1857 HRS ON 2 JULY 2025: "Absolutely—it’s deeply       >>>>>>>>>> intrinsic to Christian theology, particularly in how it frames       >>>>>>>>>> divine authority over both physical and eternal life.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> Matthew 10:28 is a striking verse where Jesus draws a sharp       >>>>>>>>>> distinction between human power (which can end the body) and       >>>>>>>>>> divine power (which governs the soul’s destiny). The phrase       >>>>>>>>>> “destroy both soul and body in hell” (Greek: Gehenna)       >>>>>>>>>> underscores a uniquely Christian eschatological view: that God       >>>>>>>>>> alone holds ultimate judgment, not just over temporal life but       >>>>>>>>>> over eternal consequence.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> This verse also reinforces a core Christian theme: fear of God       >>>>>>>>>> not as terror, but as reverent awe of the One who transcends       >>>>>>>>>> earthly threats. It’s a call to moral courage—don’t fear       >>>>>>>>>> persecution or death, but live in alignment with the One who       >>>>>>>>>> holds the keys to both life and afterlife.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> So yes, this expression is not only intrinsic—it’s       >>>>>>>>>> foundational to Christian teachings on judgment, the soul’s       >>>>>>>>>> immortality, and the sovereignty of God over all realms. If       >>>>>>>>>> you’re exploring how this connects to the “Book of Life” or       >>>>>>>>>> broader metaphysical systems [NOTE: THIS IS THE CONTEXT OF THE       >>>>>>>>>> SECOND TELEPHONE CALL], we can trace that thread further."       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> <-- WHICH IS THEN AN IRREFUTABLE GROUNDING FOR THE MAKING OF A       >>>>>>>>>> PRIMA FACIE CLAIM OF #306 - PERFIDE ALBION (IRISH / ITALIAN       >>>>>>>>>> CATHOLIC ANTI- STATEM RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION) / 31 AUGUST 1942       >>>>>>>>>> TETRA #57 - THESIS (SATOR / TENET / ROTAS) AGAINST ERII -       >>>>>>>>>> PRIVATE JAKE KOVCO'S SELF INFLICTED GUNSHOT 21 APRIL 2006 /       >>>>>>>>>> PRINCE PHILIP'S BIRTHDAY 10 JUNE 2017 - POPPY WREATH AT BOER       >>>>>>>>>> WAR MEMORIAL / TREASON BY WELLINGTON SHIRE COUNCILLOR SCOTT       >>>>>>>>>> ROSSETTI / ARCHBISHOP OF MELBOURNE PETER COMENSOLI THROUGH       >>>>>>>>>> MARRIAGE OF THE PYTHAGOREAN REGIMES OF BELIEF WITH GERMAN       >>>>>>>>>> NAZISM [ROMAN PROTOTYPE #TWO: #102 ... #218 ... #306] / [LUO       >>>>>>>>>> SHU TABLE TALK: #239 - cáng (藏): *HIDDEN* / zh       ngxīn (中心):       >>>>>>>>>> *HEART* / gǔ (骨): *FRAME*; *FRAMEWORK* ... #459]       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> WE NOT ONLY DEMAND THE DEATH PENALTY IS RE-INSTATED BY EDICT       >>>>>>>>>> OF THE GOVERNOR-GENERAL AND THESE PERSONS GIVE AN IMMEDIATE       >>>>>>>>>> ACCOUNTABILITY       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> MR BOEK (TRANSCRIPT 5 DECEMBER 2001): "Yes, ma'am, I have -       >>>>>>>>>> you would have noticed that there were no actual words of       >>>>>>>>>> threat (NOTING THAT ON 28 OCTOBER 2001 THE POLICE DID NOT       >>>>>>>>>> RESPOND TO ANY PERCEIVED THREAT WHEN SUBJECT TO THE SAME       >>>>>>>>>> POEM). They were words that were based on fact in that       >>>>>>>>>> particular phone call. Here I have a particular mathematical       >>>>>>>>>> model which is mentioned in that particular phone call. It is       >>>>>>>>>> based upon a work by Johann Kepler, a German astronomer born       >>>>>>>>>> in 1571 to 1630. He came up with three rules of which I have       >>>>>>>>>> come up with a fourth [associated to the ephemeral and mundane       >>>>>>>>>> as a transcendent fecundate connection to the Vernal and the       >>>>>>>>>> Autumn Equinox in the 6th year of the 22nd Course of Gamul: 7       >>>>>>>>>> x 24 x 13 x 49 = 6J as 107016 days or 294 x 364 days or       >>>>>>>>>> 365.2423 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox Wednesday 20 March       >>>>>>>>>> 1996 / 21 March].       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> His three rules in terms of astronomical cycles were: (1) that       >>>>>>>>>> the planet... And then I will get to my bit of relevance to       >>>>>>>>>> the 6000 years.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> THE D.PRESIDENT: Yes, yes, yes.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> MR BOEK: (1) That the planets move in elliptical orbits around       >>>>>>>>>> the sun which is situated at one of the focus of the ellipses;       >>>>>>>>>> (2) that the radius vectors joining each planet to the sun       >>>>>>>>>> describes equal areas in equal times; (3) that the ratio of       >>>>>>>>>> the square of the planet's year to the cube of the planet's       >>>>>>>>>> mean distance from the sun is the same for each planet.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> Now, what I am suggesting is that the 6000 year cycle (ie.       >>>>>>>>>> temporality #400 (x 365.2423 [7 x 24 x 13 x 49 / 293 years or       >>>>>>>>>> 6J as 294 x 364 days] = 146,097 days) % 22 = 17 SEPTEMBER /       >>>>>>>>>> #6000 years % 22 = 13 SEPTEMBER 2001) fits a mathematical       >>>>>>>>>> model on logic and reason called Telos equals Arch plus C-       >>>>>>>>>> squared:       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c² [9(9²+1)/2]       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> NOTE: WHICH IS ANALOGOUS TO THE PYTHAGOREAN EQUATION: c² = a²       >>>>>>>>>> + b² / #174 - COEFFICIENT) / #7 - SCIENCE (#TOOLS) = #3 -       >>>>>>>>>> ASKING ABOUT SHEN [#38 - tiān dào (天道): THE WAY OF HEAVEN] +       >>>>>>>>>> #4 - FIVE HUNDRED YEARS = 293 (6J) + 207 - FOUNDATIONS?       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> That has been my particular field of study as my retirement       >>>>>>>>>> activity. A religious pursuit which is, how can I say, an area       >>>>>>>>>> of #1467 - *CONTEMPLATIVE* life. The best model that can       >>>>>>>>>> currently be exhibited with regard to this particular thesis       >>>>>>>>>> is nothing more than Harry Potter and the Philosopher Stone. I       >>>>>>>>>> raise that as a particular point because the poetry that is       >>>>>>>>>> used in...       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> 1ST COMMANDMENT (100 % #81 = #19 - FOLLOWING (從): FROM A       >>>>>>>>>> PLACE OF TIME): "I AM THE L‑RD YOUR G‑D, WHO BROUGHT YOU OUT       >>>>>>>>>> OF THE LAND OF EGYPT, OUT OF THE HOUSE OF BONDAGE. (אָנֹכִי,       ה',       >>>>>>>>>> אֱלֹקיךָ, אֲשֶׁר, הוֹצֵאתִיךָ,       מֵאֶרֶץ, מִצְרַיִם, מִבֵּית)" [Exodus 20:2]       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> 2ND COMMANDMENT (40 AM - LAW / MODEL (法): METHOD       >>>>>>>>>> INSTITUTION / EMULATE)       >>>>>>>>>>              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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