so evident:

http://google.org/crisismap/2012_us_wildfires

http://www.smokeybear.com/wildfire-map.asp

http://www.bobspixels.com/kaibab.org/gct/coloplat.htm
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Subject: Re: Scientists:  Most of the areas west of the Mississippi will be
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Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 09:42:48 -0600
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On 7/20/2012 9:32 AM, * US * wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 09:23:33 -0600, SWOTL  wrote:
>
>> ... droughts that preceded the
>> disappearance of the Anasazi ...
>
> Do you believe they would somehow dispute that
> human activity contributes to desertification?

I can not comment on what the now extinct Anasazi would believe, nor can 
you.

> "The process occurs due to both natural and human causes."
>
> http://library.thinkquest.org/26026/Science/desertification.html

The "process" not in effect across the entire inter-mountain West, and 
especially NOT present at High Park or Waldo Canyon.

Localized "desertification" in the Colorado Plateau did NOT cause the 
current La Nina drought, nor did it cause the large Colorado wildfires 
in High Park or Waldo Canyon.

Learn to read maps:

http://google.org/crisismap/2012_us_wildfires

http://www.smokeybear.com/wildfire-map.asp

http://www.bobspixels.com/kaibab.org/gct/coloplat.htm

> On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:30:55 -0600, SWOTL  wrote:
>
>> ... can not tolerate being factually
>> contradicted.
>
> No wonder you ignore the facts, then.

Why do you think High Park or Waldo Canyon are located in the Colorado 
Plateau?

> There are many factors which affect climate.
>
> Make a note of it.

Which factors have caused the 1904 La Nina ?

http://www.publicaffairs.noaa.gov/lanina.html

What is La Niña?
La Niña is characterized by unusually cold ocean temperatures in the 
eastern equatorial Pacific, as compared to El Niño, which is 
characterized by unusually warm ocean temperatures in the Equatorial 
Pacific. Click here for a whole list of frequently asked questions.

Previous Cold Phases
La Niñas occurred in 1904, 1908, 1910, 1916, 1924, 1928, 1938, 1950, 
1955, 1964, 1970, 1973, 1975, 1988, 1995

Typical La Niña Impacts
La Niña tends to bring nearly opposite effects of El Niño to the United 
States — wetter than normal conditions across the Pacific Northwest and 
dryer and warmer than normal conditions across much of the southern tier.

> On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:53:33 -0600, SWOTL  wrote:
>
>> Did "Americans" ...
>
> You seem to be posting repeated identical messages,
> which you wouldn't do if you knew enough about the
> fact that your repeat chanting won't substitute for a
> valid point of some sort.

Just answer the question, what did the Anasazi do to their climate to 
cause the 16th century drought?

> Do you believe that because the sun heats the earth
> human activity can't do so also?

Human activity did not cause the La Nina 2011-12 drought.

> Undisputed:
>
> http://www.ciesin.columbia.edu/docs/002-193/002-193.html

Well actually the relevant portion, as regards the Colorado fires and 
four corners area is not addressed in this url. It focuses primarily, in 
its look at North America, upon the Great Plains of the US and Canadian 
prairie provinces.

Do try a more relevant cite.


> Also undisputed:
>
> "Desertification of shrub and grassland into pinyon-juniper
> woodland is occurring over much of the Colorado Plateau"
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15641385

I believe that past range management practices contributed to isolated 
local effects in areas of Colorado NOT currently burning.

You may need to look at these maps to discover why your geographic 
illiteracy is so evident:

http://google.org/crisismap/2012_us_wildfires

http://www.smokeybear.com/wildfire-map.asp

http://www.bobspixels.com/kaibab.org/gct/coloplat.htm
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