From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos
From Address: tednolan
Subject: Re: Star Trek: Am I the Only One?

In article ,
Steven L.  wrote:
>On 12/9/2009 3:07 PM, Your Name wrote:
>> "Smokie Darling (Annie)"  wrote in message
>> news:08e41785-e42f-4238-865c-31efceb6d2af@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Dec 9, 9:33 am, trag  wrote:
>>>> On Dec 9, 9:56 am, "Smokie Darling (Annie)"
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Ted here. The whole Soran plot was just a device
>>>>> (mcguffin, if I may), the real plot was reintroducing all the
>>>>> characters that most ST viewers "know", and the new interactions based
>>>>> on a certain event that occurred.
>>>>
>>>> That's not the Kirk that I "know".
>>>
>>> Which is why I put it in quotes.  They have the same names, but
>>> because of a certain event, they have changed (some a little, some a
>>> lot).
>>
>> "Certain events"
>> Translation: Nobody in Hollyweird knows (nor cares) how to make real Star
>> Trek any more.
>
>It seemed like real Star Trek to me.
>
>Kirk was arrogant but dedicated and resourceful,
>Spock was struggling with his human half (and the bias of other Vulcans 
>against it), his relationships with Amanda and Sarek were as we knew them,
>McCoy was gruff but decent.
>
>We seem to have two sets of contradictory criticisms here:
>
>The OP started out by saying that the movie was too derivative of years 
>and years of past Trek plots,
>
>but now you're saying that the movie wasn't real Star Trek.
>
>That's a contradiction.
>
>I happen to agree with the first poster, but I cut Abrams some slack 
>because his "five year mission" was to reboot the Trek franchise with a 
>new cast of actors, but not throw away the key relationships among the 
>crew or their key motivations. So he had to essentially revisit each one 
>separately, rushing by at breakneck speed:  Young Kirk was reckless but 
>matured later, young Spock was tormented by his classmates (that scene 
>was lifted out of TAS "Yesteryear"), young Spock loved his mom Amanda, 
>Sarek rationalized marrying Amanda as "logical", on and on.
>

Actually young Spock was a bit different as he got key support from
his father at a time when Old Spock didn't, and that support was
in favor of his human side.  That seems to have made a difference
in his being able to let go enough to keep a girlfriend..

I thought that was well done, but again not something the casual
audience will notice since he's still "pointy-ears + logical".


....Ted
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