From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos
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Subject: Re: Star Trek:  Am I the Only One?


"Steven Litvintchouk"  wrote in message
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> >  From: Your Name [mailto:your.name@isp.com]
> >  "Steven L."  wrote in message
> >  news:T4udnZuhIbWoz73WnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> >  > On 12/9/2009 4:51 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> >  > > Santolina chamaecyparissus wrote:
> >  > >> On Dec 9, 9:34 am, A Watcher  wrote:
> >  > >>> trag wrote:
> >  > >>>> On Dec 9, 9:56 am, "Smokie Darling (Annie)"
> >  
> >  > >>>> wrote:
> >  > >>>>> I agree with Ted here. The whole Soran plot was just a device
> >  > >>>>> (mcguffin, if I may), the real plot was reintroducing all the
> >  > >>>>> characters that most ST viewers "know", and the new
> >  interactions
> >  based
> >  > >>>>> on a certain event that occurred.
> >  > >>>> That's not the Kirk that I "know".
> >  > >>> Isn't a point of the latest movie? Changing their past changed
> >  the
> >  > >>> characters we knew in the original ST. Now they can go on and
> >  make new
> >  > >>> movies based on these different characters. There's no end to
> >  it.
> >  > >>>
> >  > >>
> >  > >> Except, none of them act any differently from the old
> characters.
> >  > >> Well, except Uhura, who has a huge schoolgirl crush on Spock.
> >  > >> Fascinating.
> >  > >>
> >  > > And yet most of the complaints include something about how the
> >  > > characters act _nothing_ like the previous bearers of those
> names.
> >  >
> >  > That's right, the critics of the movie fall into two camps: Those
> >  who
> >  > think the movie was too derivative of past Trek, and those who
> think
> >  it
> >  > was too different from past Trek.
> >  >
> >  > My theory is that just the shock of seeing entirely new actors
> >  playing
> >  > the old familiar parts has unnerved a lot of Trek fans.
> >
> >  The shock of having estblished facts simply thrown away has
> "unnerved"
> >  a lot
> >  of fans.
> >
> >  It aint "Star Trek". It's simply a money-grubbing exercise by
> >  Hollyweird
> >  hiding behind the name of the original ... like all stupid "reboots"
> /
> >  "reimaingings" / "remakes".  :-(
>
> What "Star Trek" really is, was defined by Gene Roddenberry in the Star
> Trek Writers' Guide given to all the writers of the episodes.
>
> The details in canon we're talking about were NOT in that Writers'
> Guide. It was written in a very general way.  Much of what we knew about
> Spock, for example, was *created* by the writers of various episodes.
> Most of that became canon *eventually*.
>
> What canon really was, Roddenberry reserved to himself.
>
> Would you have felt better if the movie had been like ST:TNG or VOY:  A
> whole new starship not named "Enterprise," a new captain, and so on?
>
> With today's word processors, it would have taken about 1 minute to
> rename all the characters:  James Kirk could become John Smith, young
> Spock could become young Spoork, the Enterprise could be renamed the
> Excalibur, etc.
>
> Would that have satisfied you?

Of course that would have been better (or at least an improvement, I don't
know all the other silly changes they made). It would have been a different
crew and wouldn't have screwed up what has already been established.



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