Hello mark.

15 Feb 06 04:57, you wrote to me:

 ml> speaking as one of those folk, /i/ don't forget... i _know_ that there
 ml> is software available for those who can't/don't want to handle large
 ml> messages... this software can cut/split (by FTSC proposal) messages
 ml> too large for their systems to handle... i've said this for years...
 ml> in fact, i've had this stance ever since the ^aSPLIT proposal was
 ml> presented to the FTSC... i have /always/ believed it the
 ml> responsibility of the -=recieving=- system to split messages according
 ml> to _their_ capabilities rather than "forcing" everyone else to succumb
 ml> to their individual restrictions...

If you are thinking of pktsort and psrt, both are buggy despite the fact that
there are at least a few hubs out that that still use it.  pktsoft had a bug
with regard to occassionally grunging netmail messages.  i believe that
splitting and recombination should be built into the tosser anyway but the
likelihood of a standard, dated and valuable as it seems, will make a mass
entry into software being utilized by sysops today.

 ml> that is the operator's problem, IMHO... the real "problem" is getting
 ml> folk to look at the other side of the coin...

 ml> and thus loose mail... there's one part of that blackhole that folk
 ml> speak of...

 ml> educate folk and teach them to cut messages up to what /their/ systems
 ml> can handle and don't restrict others in what they can handle ;) O:)

In a perfect fidonet of conformity and appreciation for the latest technology
that is true.  However, when joe sysop comes home every day and his tosser is
frozen because it hit a large message (he does not know why) he will likely
shutdown the system in frustration because his use of it and/or time is
limited.  The problem is two fold in that you have sysops running systems that
might not have the memory to handle large messages or they have the hardware
but they are using older software that does not take advantage of it
(abandonware, ect).

My tosser is generations ahead of yours just like yours is above the guy using
software 10 years old.  A message here can be the size of free memory.  Being
that I have two gigs of ram and a highspeed disk backplane, i could handle
messages in minutes that might take you hours but that is beside the point.

Not everybody wants to or can run fastecho or hpt.  Besides, you cant register
fastecho anymore anyway.  :-)

:-)

Matt

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