XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, az.politics   
   XPost: alt.abortion, talk.abortion   
   From: Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com   
      
   On 7/14/2020 10:05 PM, Intelligent Party wrote:   
   > On 7/13/2020 11:56 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:   
   >> 50% Increase in New Cases, every 10 days.   
   >>   
   >> My unscientific, ad hoc (educated) guesstimation...   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> The 150,000 could come much faster.  This is up up and away.   
   >>   
   >> We know stay-at-home works.   
   >>   
   >> 2,000 new cases per day in California before stay-at-home abandoned before   
   5/30.   
   >> 8,000 new cases per day in California now, in 6 weeks.   
   >>   
   >> We cannot continue stay-at-home without government money.   
   >>   
   >> Moving around = social distancing.   
   >>   
   >> It's sitting in one place, especially indoors, that gets someone infected   
   with   
   >> COVID.   
   >>   
   >> Work, commercial parties, restaurants, barber shops, nail salons, public   
   >> transportation.   
   >>   
   >> Unless you "catch cold."  Even at the gym, you MOVE AROUND while in it,   
   compared   
   >> to sitting at one place in a restaurant, at work, or at a party, breathing   
   the   
   >> virus in and out, in and out, in and out, in and out.   
   >>   
   >> Employee protections matter.  You can't employee people to commit self-harm.   
   >> Commerce is exploitation, but instead of prohibition, we proceed as follows.   
   >>   
   >> We deserve a forbearance on all old rent and debt, and $1,250 per month for   
   every   
   >> man woman and child.  Or else we have to go socialist, figuring there will   
   never   
   >> be a vaccine, nor an eradication of COVID, and have no forbearance, and   
   default on   
   >> the properties now, and have $2,500 per month for every man woman and   
   child, you   
   >> can finance $200,000 in home equity, with 100% LTV, and no work   
   documentation   
   >> required for such loans, $1,250 per month.  Eradication would require 3-4   
   months   
   >> of no new cases per day.  There has been no vaccine for HIV in 40 years,   
   yet they   
   >> have vaccines for the new flu frequently, how does the flu compare to   
   coronavirus,   
   >> study that.   
   >> If there is never any vaccine nor eradication, we are loosing time waiting   
   for   
   >> either, and how long should we wait before going in a new direction?  1.5   
   years?   
   >> That is 1.5 years lost.  Should we not move in a new direction   
   immediately?  So   
   >> $2,500 per month for every man, woman, and child.  All employee protections   
   are   
   >> based on extreme discouragements, and advisements, NO GESTAPO LAWS, but   
   work from   
   >> home if you can.  Make your own decisions.  Coronavirus is never going   
   away.  ALL   
   >> EMPLOYEE ADVISEMENTS.  ALL CONSUMER ADVISEMENTS, likewise. Advertising,   
   Marketing,   
   >> Product Labeling, Advisement.   
   >>   
   >> Consumer protections matter.   
   >>   
   >> The minimum wage will be $2,500 per month after taxes additionally, and   
   after you   
   >> make a certain amount $60,000-$200,000+, you pay the $30,000 free money   
   back. More   
   >> than a flat tax, a flat amount.  Also at a certain point we have a 75%   
   Federal   
   >> sales tax, to encourage everyone to hold the capital. 70% wouldn't do   
   that.  But   
   >> 80% would make them maybe not care enough about their capital.  The $2,500   
   will   
   >> vary across the nation, by the County, and be 65% per capita GDP of the   
   county,   
   >> both for the free money from the government, and for the minimum wage.   
   >>   
   >> The $1,250 or $2,500 shall be sent in T-Bills or Bonds.  If the bonds aren't   
   >> converted cash, there is no effect.  So, for people without bank accounts,   
   we will   
   >> have to send registered bonds.  The registered bonds will be transferable to   
   >> book-entry bonds, or cash.  The Fed will guarantee to buy all the free   
   money bonds   
   >> for sure, and if the Fed wants to sell bonds, it will sell other bonds.   
   >>   
   >> As to the forbearance, you know, if the tenant can't pay the property owner,   
   >> because they don't have revenues due to COVID; a movie theater, a department   
   >> store, are not going to be rented out to another tenant, who are not going   
   to earn   
   >> revenues either.  A restaurant or nightclub, and the property owner won't   
   be able   
   >> to rent and pay their mortgage to the bank.  The bank could be left holding   
   >> possibly worthless property anyway, or just land.  Also, other companies,   
   such as   
   >> airlines, you know, the idea was, an economic pause, COVID might be   
   eradicated or   
   >> vaccinated against, and then those airlines could start right back up, and   
   not   
   >> have to build the company from scratch, and other such companies with debt   
   >> payments can go bankrupt, and fold, escalating, like dominoes, more   
   unemployment,   
   >> less revenues.  Plus, just general unemployment, people could have a stay   
   on their   
   >> mortgages, and on their rent or else renters be not able to pay rent at   
   all, or   
   >> spend down their savings, and then not be able to pay rent, while passive   
   incomes   
   >> are earned by landlords and equity owners who don't do anything, as rental   
   >> payments and interest on debt, and the banks earn revenues and may pay   
   dividends.   
   >> But I guess if we go with this $2,500 plan, then there is $1,250 to pay   
   rent; and   
   >> you should get out of that rent as soon as possible, and buy $200,000, and   
   the   
   >> rental properties will be converted into for sale housing or hotels.  And   
   you can   
   >> get a job and earn more, and buy a nicer home.   
   >   
   >   
   > So the forbearance would go for 4 years, then we decide there will be no   
   vaccine   
   > (nor eradication), and COVID is forever.  Really 3.5 years is what that is,   
   but 4   
   > years covers it.  Those businesses could just bounce back.  Otherwise, the   
   bank   
   > cam be left holding worthless properties, and you're saying we should just   
   raze   
   > the movie theater today, and use the land for something else?   
      
      
   So we loose 4 years if we do this.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)