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   Active shooter response protocols call for police officers to   
   immediately attack and neutralize a gunman – especially when   
   children are the targets – according to experienced law   
   enforcement experts.   
      
   But although officers on scene at the Robb Elementary School in   
   Uvalde, Texas, arrived within minutes of the attack on May 24,   
   they posted up down the hallway.   
      
   Images from inside the school show that the officers on scene   
   had long guns and body armor, as well as ballistic shields. But   
   they stacked up down the hallway and did not breach the   
   classroom, where the gunman who killed 19 children and two   
   adults holed up.   
      
   Children inside the elementary school classroom called 911   
   multiple times pleading for help.   
      
   But it wasn’t until 77 minutes after the 18-year-old killer   
   entered the school that a tactical team breached the classroom   
   door and shot him dead, according to authorities. That was far   
   too long, experts say.   
      
   "If you attack the shooter, you disrupt the shooter’s plan, and   
   the shooter has to defend himself," Dave Katz, a former special   
   agent with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration and now the   
   CEO of Global Security Group, told Fox News Digital. "And if the   
   shooter is shooting at you, that is better than having the   
   shooter attack children."   
      
      
   Based on the images from inside the school, he said it appeared   
   as though the officers had inadequate Level IIIA ballistic   
   shields, which are designed to protect only against common   
   pistol rounds, and based on their formation in the hallway,   
   insufficient training. Katz said his expertise includes being a   
   master shield instructor and leading the DEA’s shield program in   
   the 1990s.   
      
   "Those were the wrong shields for the operation," he said.   
   "Those guys had the wrong equipment and the wrong training."   
      
   More robust Level III shields would have protected the officers,   
   he said, but even without them, they should have attacked the   
   gunman.   
      
   "The moment those kids are in danger, the shields go down, you   
   advance down the hallway, and if you’re shot at, shoot back,"   
   said Katz, a father of three. "If you go down, the next guy will   
   get him."   
      
   UVALDE SHOOTING: TEXAS DPS OFFICIALS BRING ROBB ELEMENTARY   
   SCHOOL DOOR INTO STATE CAPITOL AHEAD OF HEARING   
      
   He said police should train to react quickly and aggressively   
   and warned that schools should have their exterior doors locked   
   at all times   
      
   Texas Department of Public Safety Director Steve McCraw told the   
   state Senate’s Special Committee to Protect All Texans last week   
   that the police response to the active shooting was an "abject   
   failure and antithetical to everything we’ve learned over the   
   last two decades since the Columbine massacre."   
      
   He said that the first officers on scene had sufficient numbers   
   and firearms to have stopped the gunman within three minutes.   
      
   At least one DPS special agent appeared bothered by the lack of   
   action being taken at the scene, according to the updated   
   timeline released by law enforcement.   
      
   "If there's kids in there, we need to go in there," a DPS   
   special agent repeated twice at 11:56 a.m. An unknown officer   
   responded, "Whoever is in charge will determine that."   
      
   "The only thing stopping the hallway of dedicated officers from   
   entering room 111 and 112 was the on-scene commander, who   
   decided to place the lives of officers before the lives of   
   children," McCraw said at the hearing. "The officers had   
   weapons; the children had none. The officers had body armor; the   
   children had none. The officers had training; the subject had   
   none."   
      
   More than 10 officers entered the school less than three minutes   
   into the shooting, McCraw said previously, but the incident   
   commander, Uvalde school Police Chief Pete Arredondo, allegedly   
   held up their advance.   
      
   Arredondo ordered the officers to wait for more tactical gear   
   and a key to unlock the classroom door, McCraw said.   
   Investigators later determined that the door was likely unlocked.   
      
   McCraw said it was "plain and simple" that there was   
   insufficient training, and he accused Arredondo of making   
      
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