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   From: Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com   
      
   Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro powers, and not   
   with   
   countries across the ocean.  And say Ukraine will be in EU, and in free   
   association with Russia.   
      
   It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and fight   
   Russia,   
   because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and annex it.   
      
   You don't win a war through defense alone.  Ukraine is not far away from Russia   
   like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.  It's like if the U.S. were   
   fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to stop the U.S. from annexing Baja.    
   Russia   
   will just take more and more of Ukraine over time.  The only other possibility   
   is   
   if Russia were to implode.  That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is   
   this   
   really going to happen?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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