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SUBJECT: VESCO & GERMAN UFO RESEARCH                       FILE: UFO1180



                               VESCO.TXT 
                                  by
                                Al Pinto


We, because of the infinitesimal size of the Universe, can quite easily say
that the probability of the Earth being the only planet inhabited by
intelligent beings is not logical.  However, while there is research going on
today inorder to prove the existence of extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) by
listening in on the radio waves of space, I wonder; have we been contacted
already? Is there something in the UFO phenomenon that proves the existence of
extraterrestrials? Let's look at the facts.
  
Thousands of people from all around the world report the sightings of strange
aerial phenomenon every year. It has been going on for many years, but not as
much as from 1947 to present.  Due to the fact that so many people have seen
objects in the sky that they can't identify, we could at least admit that there
is sufficient reason to believe that UFO's exist. We can't scientifically prove
their existence just based on that fact but we can't ignore it either. So our
next logical step would be to get more data. 
 
Is the origin of all UFO's extraterrestrial? Is there a possibiliy that at
least some may come from Earth and Earth technology? The answer to that
question is yes, some are Earth originated. People can easily mistake a plane
or helicopter flying at night as a UFO and have already. Some even thought that
Venus was one. However, while most UFO's could be explained, there are an
astonishing number of reports that cannot. They include reports from people
such as police chiefs, scientists, pilots, and most interestingly, astronauts.
There is plenty of information publically available that is reputable about
details of their encounters. Our next step should be to concentrate on these
unexplainable sightings. Out of these, is it still possible that the object
could come from Earth? Dr. Renato Vesco thought so. In his book Intercept UFO,
he writes about his experience and information with Nazi Germany. I am going to
include a paper written by him but first let me tell you his credentials.
       
        Renato Vesco is a fully liscensed aircraft engineer and a specialist
in aerospace and ramjet developements. He attended the University         of
Rome and, before WWII, studied at the German Institute for             Aerial
Developement. During the war, Vesco worked with the                Germans at
the Fiat Lake Garda secret installations in Italy. In            the 1960's, he
worked for the Italian Air Ministry of Defense               as an undercover
technical agent, investigating the UFO mystery.
        He writes:
         
"On November 27, 1944, a B-27 of the United States Air Force, returning from a
raid on Speyer, West Germany, encountered a huge, orange colored light moving
upward at an estimated speed of 500 MPH. When the pilots reported, sector radar
had reported negatively, because nothing had registered on the screen.
  
But the object seen by the returning bomber was only the first of numerous
others spotted by American pilots over wartime Germany and promptly baptized
'foo-fighters.' Fighter pilots Falls and Backer. of the 415th Squadron,
reported such an encounter a month later forcing the Air Force to admit that
such objects might exist. Later encounters with foo fighters led experts to
assume they were German inventions of a new order employed to baffle radar.
 
How close they came to the truth, they learned only when the war was over and
Allied Intelligence teams moved into the secret Nazi plants. The foo-fighters
seen by American pilots were only a minor demonstration, a
fraction of a vast variety of methods used to confuse radar and interrupt
electro magnetic currents.  Work on the German anti-radar Feurball, or
fireball, had been speeded up during the fall of 1944 at a Luftwaffe
experimental center near Oberammergau, Bavaria. There, and at the aeronautical
establishment at Weiner Neustadt, the first fireballs were produced. Later,
when the Russians moved closer to Austria, the workshops producing the
fireballs were moved to Black Forest. Fast and remote controlled, the
fireballs, equipped with kliston tubes and operating on the same frequency as
Allied radar, could eliminate the blips from screens and remain practically
invisible to ground control.

The Nazi Feurball failed to interfere with the Allied air offensive. The foo
fighters had been launched too late and could no longer change the course of
events, but in themselves they were significant not only because they were the
outcome of a technical evolution which could have led to more dangerous
weapons, but also because they showed that Nazi technology had moved in a
direction far beyond anything expected by Allied Intelligence.

As the fall of Germany approached, the Nazi Leaders reverted to an ambitious
project created by Gauleiter Franz Hofer who had become high commissioner for
the Italian Tyrol and the Southern Alps. The project foresaw setting up an
incredible fortress in the mountains, including parts of Italy, Austria and
Bavaria. Hofer submitted his plan to Hitler's aide, Martin Bormann in November
1944, but he had prepared for this moment back in 1938 when Nazi agents
carefully mapped all mountain passes, caves, bridges, highways, and located
sights for underground factories, munitions dumps, arms and food caches. To
complete work on this fortress, Hofer demanded a slave labor force of a quarter
of a million- 70% Austrian workers and 30% men of the Tyrolese home guard.
 
So-called U-Plants were to be set up underground as gigantic workshops and
launching pads for the secret weopons which were to turn the tide of the war in
favor of the Nazis. Among these were some 74 tunnels along Lake Garda, in
Northern Italy, which were to be adapted and transformed into a vast assembly
plant by FIAT of Turin in close collaboration with the department of Minister
Albert Speer. Seven other tunnels along Lake Garda, near Limone, were to
produce several weapons tested at the Hermann Goering Institute of Riva del
Garda.

According to the archives of the German High Command and of the Allied Combined
Intelligence Objectives Sub-Committee, other plants in vital areas of Central
Germany, code named M-Werke, were to produce powerful missles such as the giant
A.9/A.10 destined to destroy New York and Washington. But most important was
the Alpine area, for it was from there that the supreme weapons were to come.

This report, never released by the Allies, was made by a French diplomat. It
was forwarded to Free French Intelligence Headquarters at Algiers. The top
secret report reffered to the blue clouds as something approaching
anti-aircraft projectiles based on the grisou (fire damp) gas found in mines,
and which had been succesfully tried against other bombers over Lake Garda. The
French report was intercepted by Italian agents and deciphered at SID (Italian
Counter-Intelligence) Headquarters at Castiglione della Stiviere. The message
was later captured by a military intelligence team operating for the eighth
Army in Italy.
  
The contents of the message was no novelty to the Allies. Already, some time
ago, shortly after the bombing of Dresden, British and American intelligence
had obtained a brief account concerning the use of some such weapon used
against a group of twelve American bombers. That message, which came from an
agent in Switzerland attached to Allen Dulle's team, also stated the attacker
had been a "strange hemispherical object which flew at fantastic speeds and
destroyed the bombers without using firearms.' 

Then, after the German surrender in May, 1945, a team of British agents,
investigating the files of some of the underground factories in Black Forest,
discovered that a large number of documents concerned 'important experiments
made with liquid oxygen for new turbine engines capable of developing
extraordinary power.'

Other documents described the use of 'gaseous explosives' which had been
originally tested in Austria in 1936. Their existence was later confirmed by
the ALSOS Mision and by Dr. Hans Friedrich Gold, of the Laboratory for
Aeronautical Research at Volkenrode. The ejection of gas explosives had been
part of the program tackled by researchers on Lake Garda and later tested with
success by the circular flying object against Allied bombers.
This object, in German military files, already had an operational name: 'Round
Lightning' (Kugelblitz) 

Long and close observation between the special Air Research Corps of the SS,
Austrian research centers in Vienna, the Hermann Goering Works and the vast
complex of underground G-Works had previously produced amazing improvement on
the fireball or foo-fighter which, despite it's anti-radar effectiveness,
remained comparatively harmless. But by combining the principle of the aircraft
with a round, symetrical plane with direct gyroscopic stabilization, employing
an ejector-gun using grisou and a gelatinous organic/mettalic fuel for a total
reaction turbine, adding remote control, vehicle take off, infrared seeking
equipment and electrostatic firing systems, the harmless fireball became the
lethal Kugelblitz!

Believe me, I can prove what I say. The Kugelblitz, to be on the safe side,
employed, in addition to it's electrostatic firing system, a similar system
based on short waves and built by the Patent Verwertungs Gesselschaft of
Salzburg, Austria. The whole thing formed one compact, round mass which had
absolutely nothing in common with any flying object ever produced before.

In documents found by British Intelligence teams and submitted to the British
Intelligence Objectives Sub-Committee-documents which I have been able to
study-these and many other details are known. They can be found in the
Sub-Committee's Final Report Number 61 on the 'Weapons Section of the L.F.A.,
Volkenrode.'

Kugelblitz, together with it's "younger brothers of the fireball, lens shaped
bomb and other weapons, began the real history of the UFO's. In itself, it was
a second generation fireball.

The 'round lightning' weapon, the incredibly fast and mysterious disk-shaped
craft that had been rumored and sighted in action, was used only once. As the
Allied forces crossed the Rhine, the only craft of it's type was destroyed by
th SS on instructions from Berlin, to prevent it's capture. But ever since, due
to the severe censorship imposed by 'T' force of the British Army in Germany,
and later, thanks to the complete blackout imposed by London, nothing more was
heard of Round Lightning. 

I know that agents of the 'T' force camp at Bad Gandersheim closely examined
the documents found in the G-Works, documents which had been elaborated by the
technical general staff of the SS and by technical control of the Henshel and
Zeppelin works. These documents concern the propulsion unit of the Kugelblitz
prototype built by the Kreislaufbetrieb Motor D.W. in 1943 for the F.F.K.F.
(Forschungsinstitut for Kraftfhart and Fahzeugmotoren) at
Stuttgart-Untertuerkheim and perfected by proffessors Kamm and Ernst. The
British called this motor an 'oxygen recycle system.' It was later abandoned in
favor of the Walter turbine, powered by hydrogen peroxide. The documents found
discussed the possibility of using both systems in a compound-type propulsion
unit.
  
To these basic facts, I must add: A mass of documents and equipment were taken
by British 'T' teams to Bedford and then to Canada and Australia. 

In a certain sense, the British were more intelligent than the Americans, for
they permitted German scientists to complete their work in Germany on the sight
where they had worked all through the war-only, of course, under close
supervision. This happened at Darmstadt and Goettingen. Later on, these
installations were dismantled and shipped to Britain. The Transport Service of
the British Ministry of Aviation discreetly shipped the scientists and
documents to Britain, Canada and Australia, in successive phases. Lists of the
scientists to be sent overseas had been compiled in the spring of 1944 by the
B.I.O.S. and formed separate and specialized teams.

One such team, composed of Proffessor Ben Lockspeiser and W.J. Richards, Dr.
S.H. Hollingdale and Captain A.D. Green, handled 'advanced projects, missles,
jet and turbine craft.' Another, including T.A. Taylor and M.A. Wheeler,
investigated German advances in the field of Thermo-refraction. Another team,
which obtained the services of Dr. Ernst Westermann, former director of the
F.D.R.P. Institutes of Speyer and Saarbrucken, concentrated on the fireball
projects. 

The then Ministry of Aircraft Production, similar to the German wartime
Jaegerstab, ceased to exist officially on March 31, 1946, amd became part of
the Ministry of Supply. In the years that followed, these teams, and especially
the experts headed by Professor Lockspeiser, worked on a multitude of German
projects, adapting these to their own experiments in the field of 'suction'
wings and on the work of two German scientists during the war, Professors
Prandtl and Busemann, to develope a high speed fighter in which the air intake
along the wings was discharged through a half-moon-shaped crescent along the
fuselage in order to both drive and support the vehicle at high speeds.

This research comes to mind when one remembers the incident of January 3, 1956.
A cessna, employed on a job of aerial photography near Pasadena, encountered
three circular flying objects which circled it at a speed of 1600 mph and at a
distance of two miles. One of these objects, in suddenly breaking away from the
formation, gave off a long, vaporous trail as it sped through a cumulous cloud,
cutting the cloud in two. 'Exactly as if it had sucked up the cloud.,' the
Cessna pilot exclaimed later.

Back in 1946, the British Broadcasting Corporation announced that Britain
'would soon have aircraft capable of speeds well over 1000 mph, that, according
to some experts, such craft had already been built and that, in the near
future, they could circumnavigate the globe several times because they needed
only fuel for take off and landing..' Other British sources mentioned aircraft
capable of speeds of several thousand miles an hour.

More than twenty years have passed since the otherwise so-eminently-careful BBC
boasted of 'Britain's planes of the future,' and officially these aircraft
still remain little more than a dream. And yet, did not Ben Lockspeiser, the
man who was in charge of the most responsible 'T' teams, declare that 'such
craft would need no fuel?' Did he not imply  that such craft would gain their
own propellant from the atmosphere by suction and expulsion?  

On June 26, 1953, an intensely luminous flying object majestically crossed the
night sky of Albacete, Spain, at an altitude of 60 miles. In Britain,
scientific papers produced by members of the 'T' teams showed suggestive titles
such as 'Boundary Layer Flow Over a Permeable Surface Through Which Suction is
Applied' (J.H. Preston), 'The Aerodynamics of Porous Sheets' by G.J. Taylor,
and Pankhurst's Aerofoil Catalogue.

In 1959, aeronautical engineer N.S. Currey wrote: 'Canada today must be counted
among the most advanced aeronautical powers in the world,' and added
cautiously, 'This refers above all to the field of jet propulsion.'

The Canadian Department of Mines and the Technical Surveys Mapping Branch
reserved a vast area-125,000 square miles-for production of experimental
aircraft. This was one of the decisions reached by the committees of the
Commonwealth Conference on Aeronautical Research. This desolate, heavily
woooded and mountainous region between British Columbia and Alberta, with the
Peace River district as it's Northern frontier and Washington State to the
South, was an ideal location-few and easily controlled roads, few settlements,
few railroads, but good communications in the north and the south via the trunk
line from Prince George to Edmonton and that from Vancouver to the United
States border, and only one major highway, te Alaska.

Britain already had considerable wartime experiance in this sort of enterprise.
In 1942, at the height of the German raids, the RAF had set up five secret
airports in the very heart of the New Forest, in Hampshire. The big thing about
these installations was the fact that they included complete industrial plants,
decentralizing major groups essential for war production. They were called
'shade workshops.' The Germans, too, had much experience in this field. One of
their major plants at Volkenrode resisted all attempts at aerial identification
throughout the war.

Neither the British nor the Americans, on an official level, saw eye to eye in
scientific matters at the close of the war against Germany and afterward. The
United States' refusal to share atomic secrets with Britain was never quite
forgotten in Whitehall, and Britain set out to prove, with Canada, that she was
well able to produce her own fission bomb. If Congress steadfastly accused the
British of giving little or nothing in return for information, the British felt
they had been mistrusted and severely neglected. They preferred to go ahead
with their plans in Canada.

The fact that the area has been photographed again and again by high altitude
reconnaissance planes, both U.S. and Russian, does not perturb the Canadian or
British authorities. The plants and saucer ports are underground, hidden in
primeval forests of Columbia.

The question immediately arises: Why have not Britain and Canada made such
craft available to their other partners in the North Atlantic Treaty
Organization? I believe there may be many answers to such a question, but one
of the main points is this: Lack of confidence and fear of being exploited
remain rife among the nations, as they are among people. And why should not
Britain and her Commonwealth partner retain one major trump card which, one
day, may become invaluable? The pooling of scientific secrets is rarely
entirely sincere.

All the evidence, all the know how of British scientists before and during the
last war, combined with the astounding progress in propulsion and the
discoveries in suction aircraft of the Germans, based on 18 years of research
into the most secret documents of the past war, have convinced me of one thing:
The flying saucers do not come from space. They come from a few hundred miles
outside the United States. They mean no harm, and Washington knows this. Hence
the long standing order to all U.S. Air Force pilots: Intercept--but do not
fire upon." 

This article, which appeared in Argosy Magazine in August, 1969, is reprinted
above in it's entirety. It is important because it is one of the few reports
that goes into detail about the revolutionary technical advancements made by
the Nazi's in the field of aeronautical research.     
Unfortunately, Vesco doesn't offer any real substantiation for the existence of
the Kugelblitz, which is the crux of his subject. However, in his book
Intercept, UFO, he tells us that the Kugelblitz was indeed tested some time in
February, 1945 over the great underground complex at Kahla, in Thuringia. Both
the Kugelblitz and the Feurball were then destroyed by the retreating S.S. 

So, could this story be considered fact? We have to take into consideration a
number of issues. First and foremost, there is the Nazi's.
Could they have been developing craft of such advancement? History has it that
not only were they at war, which required much in the way of manpower, but they
took on incredible projects such as constructing huge underground complexes at
Nordhausen in the Harz mountains, Pennemunde and others. They also had their
Naval Vessals provide support for a very detailed study of the Antartic in
which they were alleged to have been building underground bases there as well. 

General Heinrich Himmler, the Reichsfuhrer as his S.S. men would call him, was
quite frankly, a madman. He believed in obediance, controlled breeding and
vivisection of homans. He believed in biological mutation and what could be
produced with it. He used the slaves for his work force, as well as specimens
for research. 

Let's discuss this possibility more in the message boards in Paranet and the
UFO echos. I am starting to get quite tired of the theory that UFO's and
related matters, are extraterrestrial. It is being shoved down our throats by
figures like "Falcon" and "Condor" as well as articles in Paranet like
MUGGER.DOC and PICNIC2.DOC. As a matter of fact, that is about all I hear
anymore. It seems that since we want to hear about EBE's, the so-called,
Intelligence Community, is giving us just what we want to hear. 

I call on each and every person in the UFO community to research, in debth,
HUMAN history. In particular, great scientists such as, Tesla and his
experiments; Einstein's theories; Germany's secret weapons of the Second World
War by R. Lusar; the Philadelphia Experiment; Admiral Byrd's Project Highjump;
books and periodicals about Nazi Germany and their interest in Antartica; then
tell me that the possibility of technology (Earth Technology) could not
possibly exist that could explain UFO's and the reason why it is above top
secret.
  

              
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