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   From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca   
      
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   Blueshirt  wrote:   
   >Mickmane wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 05.05.25, Blueshirt   wrote:   
   >> > Mickmane wrote:   
   >> >> On 04.05.25, Blueshirt   wrote:   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a   
   >> >>> bastard...   
   >> >>   
   >> >> I didn't.   
   >> >   
   >> > It's TV... Nobody is THAT nice and smarmy without having some   
   >> > agenda.   
   >>   
   >> Meh. I object! If it's that predictable, it should not be used.   
   >   
   >Well, I am sure some people might have thought Conrad was a   
   >genuine bloke and that himself and Ruby would live happily ever   
   >after.   
   >   
   >I didn't!   
   >   
   >> > It's a trope! ;-)   
   >>   
   >> Lame.   
   >   
   >There will always be some sort of trope in an ongoing TV series.   
   >A seemingly good guy that is really a bad guy is fairly common.   
   >   
   >> >>> Oh, and beware of fake news too... we all know about that   
   >> >>> one don't we? So never believe what they tell you. It's   
   >> >>> all a conspiracy! #DemandTheTruth   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Yeah, Soap boxing, sigh. Reminded me of good old Quincy,   
   >> >> where every episode was about one soap box or another.   
   >> >   
   >> > It's TV... There has to be a 'message' in everything!   
   >>   
   >> I object!   
   >   
   >A script is telling a story, there will usually be some sort of   
   >message. Okay, maybe sometimes it can be a bit more in your face   
   >these days as writers and producers think we are all stupid. But   
   >Doctor Who having a message is nothing new... for instance, "The   
   >Green Death" (from 1973) had a message in the script and it   
   >worked well within the story... it was not in-your-face "soap   
   >boxing" the way modern TV shows go about it.   
   >   
   >> > Just as there's always a twist at the end, there's always a   
   >> > message to get across.   
   >>   
   >> If it's that predictable, it's no longer a valid element of a   
   >> story.   
   >   
   >Depends on what the message is and how good the actual story   
   >that it's wrapped up in is. It doesn't always have to be a   
   >political allegory...  but there's usually some sort of a   
   >message somewhere, even if it's only subtle. Unfortunately RTD   
   >doesn't tend to do subtle!   
   >   
   >> >>> as well as being a [kind of] prequel setting up "The War   
   >> >>> Between the Land and the Sea"   
   >> > >   
   >> >> What? What did I miss?   
   >> >   
   >> > Nothing yet. Prequel means before...   
   >>   
   >> But you said something about setting up. What was there that   
   >> set up anything?   
   >   
   >The spin-off show "The War Between the Land and the Sea", which   
   >will feature the UNIT characters featured in this episode... as   
   >well as the Sea Devils.   
   >   
   >(This has been mentioned here before.)   
   >   
   >> > Stay tuned until November/December for the answer.   
   >>   
   >> What? Why then?   
   >   
   >That's when "The War Between the Land and the Sea" will be   
   >broadcast...   
      
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