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   From: agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM   
      
   On 25/09/2025 13:26, Daniel70 wrote:   
   > On 25/09/2025 12:42 am, The True Doctor wrote:   
   >> On 24/09/2025 14:13, Blueshirt wrote:   
   >>> The True Melissa wrote:   
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   >>>> I tried, but turns out it's not on Tubi. YouTube has also been   
   >>>> scrubbed pretty well, though I'll look further.   
   >>>   
   >>> There are rights issues surrounding "An Unearthly Child" so that   
   >>> might be the reason it's not on Tubi... it was taken off the BBC   
   >>> iPlayer a couple of years ago because the BBC does not own the   
   >>   
   >> It was never on iPlayer when they put everything else up in 2023. Last   
   >> year Terror of the Zygons and the Seeds of Doom both joined it.   
   >>   
   >>> entire copyright. So it probably affects every service that has   
   >>> deals with the BBC.   
   >>>   
   >>> That's why having physical releases of stories is still a good   
   >>> idea. Rights issues can go fuck themselves then!   
   >>   
   >> This is why torrents are a good thing which should be encouraged.   
   >> Remember that it is not illegal to download copyrighted content. If   
   >> you were never going to pay for it then you are not depriving the   
   >> copyright holder of any money, greedy scum that they are. I've already   
   >> paid for An Unearthly Child and everything else the BBC has made many   
   >> times over. I own it and so do all Licence fee payers.   
   >>   
   > .... so, it could be argued, that your downloading it from Tubi/wherever   
   > *IS* legal ..... but I, for one, have NEVER paid for it (Beta/VHS/DVD)   
   > so my downloading it SHOULD be illegal!!   
      
   Not if you were never going to pay for it. The copyright holder would   
   have to prove that you have deprived them of revenue. If you downloaded   
   it without paying for it and then sold it then you would be violating   
   copyright. If you gave it away to someone who was never going to pay for   
   it you wouldn't. If you bought it legally and sold it to someone else   
   you would not be violating copyright either. If you bought it legally,   
   made multiple copies of it and gave it away for free to others who were   
   never going to pay for it, there's no copyright violation. If you bought   
   it legally and screened it to your friends in your home and charged them   
   to watch it there's no copyright violation. If you bought it legally and   
   broadcast it so anyone could watch it you would be violating copyright   
   since anyone can watch it including those who would have paid for it if   
   they didn't already own it, assuming of course people watched it. If   
   they didn't watch it there's no copyright violation. If you bought it   
   legally, made a copy of it and broadcast the copy, apparently that's   
   copyright violation even if broadcasting the original source would be   
   legal. It's like paying a plumber to install some pipes and then   
   replacing one of the pipes that sprang a leak yourself and then having   
   to pay the original plumber again for work he never did for work that   
   either you or a different plumber carried out. Time for copyright to be   
   abolished I think.   
      
   --   
   The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw   
      
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   stands for." --William Shatner   
      
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