XPost: rec.arts.drwho, alt.usage.english
From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
In article <10is7kh$i105$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name wrote:
>On 2025-12-28 15:00:29 +0000, J. J. Lodder said:
>> Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 28/12/2025 7:41 am, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>> On 27/12/2025 18:50, athel.cb@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> lar3ryca posted:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> And they meet at -40, which happens occasionally around here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most of France is starting each day at -2°C or so at present (which you
>>>>> probably wouldn't call cold in Regina), but not here: in Marseilles we
>>>>> do our shivering at 8°C or so.
>>>>>
>>>>> One consequence of the cold is that I learned a new word today: greloter
>>>>> means shiver.
>>>>
>>>> Does it also have the other meaning of "shiver" - to break into small
>>>> fragments as in "shiver me timbers"?
>>>
>>> Might that be because the Water would get into the wood and, on a cold
>>> day, the water might freeze and, as ice takes up greater volumn than
>>> water, the 'timber' would crack .... disabling the ship??
>>
>> That is not the correct explanation,
>>
>> Jan
>
>True. The *correct* explanation is that it is simply a phrase made up
>by a writer back around 1795 (not the later Robert Loius Stevenson in
>1883 that some places claim), and there's no proof that any real
>sailors / pirates ever actually said it. It is based it on the
>definition of "shiver" meaning "to split in two". :-)
>
>
>
SLivering are you?
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