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   Message 81,693 of 82,032   
   Peter Moylan to Hibou   
   Re: Tis the Season   
   03 Jan 26 08:46:10   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.drwho, alt.usage.english   
   From: peter@pmoylan.org   
      
   On 03/01/26 04:57, Hibou wrote:   
   > Le 02/01/2026 à 15:37, The Doctor a écrit :   
   >> Hibou wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> [...] We native English speakers are lucky people.   
   >>   
   >> Exactly!   
   >>   
   >> Still how are the Scots doing to preserve Scottish Gaelic?   
   >   
   > Badly:   
   >   
   >    
   >   
   >  There's no percentage scale there, but Gaelic speakers are currently   
   >  about 1% of the population - and there's a question about how well   
   > they speak it. No-one in Scotland speaks Gaelic but not English.   
      
   In that respect, Irish is worse off than  Scots Gaelic. The native   
   speakers live in little corners of the country.   
      
   > It is essentially impossible to preserve a language like Gaelic. If   
   > it's to handle all aspects of modern life, then it must acquire a   
   > mass of new words, and its nature changes. If one rejects that course   
   > and seeks to preserve it as is, then it becomes limited and   
   > obsolete.   
   >   
   > IMHO, it's no use being able to say, "Put some more peat on the fire,   
   >  Donald" in Gaelic, and then having to resort to English to discuss   
   > Morag's doomscrolling on Facebook.   
      
   That doesn't have to be a problem. I've just been learning some   
   computer-related terms in Irish. The words -- e.g. riomhaire for   
   computer -- have the look and feel of native Irish words. Occasionally   
   you see a word that looks similar to English -- e.g. idirlión for   
   internet -- but overall the language is handling the new concepts   
   without introducing a pidgin.   
      
   The real problem is that the English language so dominates the society   
   that you can't function properly -- get a job, do the shopping, etc. --   
   unless you're fluent in English. That's also the problem for minority   
   languages in other countries.   
      
   --   
   Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org   
   Newcastle, NSW   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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