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   Daniel70 to The Doctor   
   Re: Tis the Season   
   04 Jan 26 23:43:01   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.drwho   
   From: daniel47@nomail.afraid.org   
      
   On 4/01/2026 2:27 am, The Doctor wrote:   
   > In article <10jap2e$156ch$1@dont-email.me>,   
   > Daniel70   wrote:   
   >> On 3/01/2026 7:53 am, Your Name wrote:   
   >>> On 2026-01-02 17:57:07 +0000, Hibou said:   
   >>>> Le 02/01/2026 à 15:37, The Doctor a écrit :   
   >>>>> Hibou wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> [...] We native English speakers are lucky people.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Exactly!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Still how are the Scots doing to preserve Scottish Gaelic?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Badly:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    
   >>>>   
   >>>> There's no percentage scale there, but Gaelic speakers are currently   
   >>>> about 1% of the population - and there's a question about how well   
   >>>> they speak it. No-one in Scotland speaks Gaelic but not English.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It is essentially impossible to preserve a language like Gaelic. If   
   >>>> it's to handle all aspects of modern life, then it must acquire a mass   
   >>>> of new words, and its nature changes. If one rejects that course and   
   >>>> seeks to preserve it as is, then it becomes limited and obsolete.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> IMHO, it's no use being able to say, "Put some more peat on the fire,   
   >>>> Donald" in Gaelic, and then having to resort to English to discuss   
   >>>> Morag's doomscrolling on Facebook.   
   >>>   
   >>> The Maroi language here in New Zealand adds words, but often they're   
   >>> simply "pigeon-English"-like reworking of the English word. For example,   
   >>> the Maori word for a car is simply "motoka" (i.e. a corruption of   
   >>> "motorcar").  :-\   
   >>>   
   >>> As usual these days, there is all sorts of politicall correctness   
   >>> stupidity about trying to "save" the Maori language by having street   
   >>> signs in both languages, ranaming government departments (twice - first   
   >>> time to put the Maori version first, and again to put it second),   
   >>> forcing kids to learn Maori in school, etc. The reality is that it's a   
   >>> dying language for a reason, and even most Maori cannot and have no   
   >>> interest in speaking it.   
   >>>   
   >> Here, in Australia, there are something like 500 Aboriginal Nations, so   
   >> I'm guessing there are at least that many languages. And as the original   
   >> tribes were nomadic, there has probably been a lot of intermingling ....   
   >> of people AND languages.   
   >   
   > So in Aus, there is English and the Aboribinal languages.   
   >   
   > We saw thi is in DW - 4 to Doomsday.   
      
   And I might guess, Binky, that YOUR reply is in neither "English nor the   
   Aboribinal languages"(whatever the fuck that is).   
   --   
   Daniel70   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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