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   x to Blueshirt   
   Re: Time to drive you atheists crazy   
   21 Jan 26 10:01:37   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.drwho   
   From: x@x.net   
      
   On 1/21/26 04:56, Blueshirt wrote:   
   > x wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 1/18/26 02:51, Blueshirt wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> God and the Devil are two sides of the same [made-up]   
   >>> coin. So if you don't believe in one, you can't believe   
   >>> in the other. Dave doesn't seem to be able to grasp   
   >>> that one... despite having it pointed out to him many   
   >>> times.   
   >>   
   >> The word 'diabolis' means 'to cast against'.   
   >>   
   >> The word 'God' and the word 'good' were the   
   >> same word in Old English.   
   >>   
   >> Either way there is something called 'Summum   
   >> Bonum' or 'Absolute Goodness' and 'Summum Malum'   
   >> or 'Absolute Evil'.   
   >   
   > There's definitely goodness and badness. People can choose   
   > to behave in a good way... or they can choose to behave badly.   
   > But I doubt their badness is because they have been possessed   
   > by a Devil. Humans have both traits in them, our free will   
   > chooses which trait we expose to the world at any given time.   
   >   
   > People shouldn't need a [holy] book to tell them to be nice to   
   > one another, or be possessed by a demonic spirit to do bad   
   > things! For me, God and Satan are artificial constructs...   
   > people behave how the choose to behave off of their own backs.   
      
   Well you know evil is a parasitism of the good.  There is no   
   evil that obtains power except through some other form of   
   goodness.   
      
   People in the present day are controlled by machines called   
   'television sets and radios' that in a lot of ways the people   
   worship as gods.  Show a lot of pretty pictures and portray   
   a lot of sounds from these radio speakers and a lot of people   
   think that they are 'automatically rational' because of it.   
      
   Yet in a lot of ways these machines are much like the ancient   
   Roman arena.  They exist in a lot of ways for entertainment, but   
   in a lot of ways perhaps nothing in them is true.  There is also   
   the question 'what is holy'?  As for books however there are   
   documents called 'Constitutions' and 'laws' that are also   
   types of words that can have different meanings.  These documents   
   are artificial constructs.   
      
   Dawkins came up with the term 'meme' and it is not obvious where   
   'meme' ends and 'angel' or 'spirit' or 'mind' or 'idea' starts.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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