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Hey Michiel!

On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 15:26:06 +0100, you wrote:

 > Then again here in The Neterlands we are used to dealing with accents
 > and diaresis. They are paty of out language.

Very true, and it's the complete opposite here. Not only my name, but I've
seen plenty of words that should have an accent or diaeresis and is quite
often typed without.

 NB>> I'm not saying it's impossible, as I can do ALT-0235 to get the
 NB>> desired "ë",

 > ALT 137 in DOS.
 > There is the alternative of "AltGr". The right Alt key acts as a second
 > "shift" key. E.g. "AltGr 5" is the Euro sign.

I would have to do some reconfiguration to get that. Both of my alt keys do
the same thing, as we don't normally have an AltGr key here, but I do know
about it by word of mouth.

 NB>> I also believe I was getting the DAILYUTF from you at some point,
 NB>> but possibly when your system went down, and stayed down for some
 NB>> time, it was stopped for some reason (I don't think I ever turned
 NB>> it off).

 > You want me to turn it on again?

Sure, please. I still have all the same config in place here to receive it.

I believe I was also receiving this echo from you before you went down as
well. It doesn't look like I paused or disabled anything with our link (I just
linked with someone else at the time), so it must have stopped at your end
when you reconfigured.

 > At the moment no one in Z1 participates in de dailyutf,

That's a bummer. I figured Andrew, at the very least, would have been
interested.. as he was the only one from Z1 that jumped on the IPV6 bandwagon
before I did.

 > Yes. When I was RC I also did it. It is not hard, the UTF part is mostly
 > a copy of the ASCII setup. Except for the file names and the ALLOW8BIT
 > setting.

Got it. I'll take a look at it when I have some free time this weekend.

 > No. Here in Western Europe the default code page for DOS was 850. That
 > is still the case in the Windows CLI. In the Linux community Latin-1 is
 > popular.

I think most of my Windows applications are now either ISO8859-1 or UTF-8. But
I'm on Windows 11, so it probably started to change some time ago. As for
Linux, ISO-8859-1 may have been popular at some point, but these days most
distributions are installed with UTF-8 as the default (which is a good thing,
IMO).

 > ASCII is a subset of nearly all charactersets in use, with the exception
 > of the obsolete national 7 bit character sets.

I imagine we probably won't see much of those national 7 bit sets any more,
unless someone comes online with some very vintage hardware. ;)

 > I recall Björn mentioning that is is Latin-1. But does it mnatter? The
 > point is that it is NOT UTF-8 and therefore an error in he UTF nodelist.

True, and let's not forget that it's an error in the original nodelist, as
well.

Regards,
Nick

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