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 Message 1354 
 Marceline Jones to IB JOE 
 Re: External mailer 
 21 Feb 21 07:19:00 
 
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 MJ> I currently do not understand how WC5 can receive a call from an external
 MJ> mailer if there is no command on the WC5 side to receive a live
 MJ> connection. In previous versions of Wildcat the "wildcat.exe" command
 MJ> supported the "/B " switch to pass a live connection to the BBS.
 MJ> 
 IJ> I just want to clarify WC5, the old version number and name for the
 IJ> current WINServer... It is a windows 32bit program and needs to run
 IJ> with other 32bit mailer programs. 

I understand that my version of WC5 is a Windows 32-bit GUI application.
However my version is apparently not WINServer (as detailed in its connection
banner). (Notice from the following banners that one says WINServer and the
other does not).

My banner:

==================================================
Wildcat! for Win95/NT (c) 1995,96 Mustang Software, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.
Registration number: 00-0000.  v5.00.  Node: 1.
==================================================

Wildcat 5.3:

==================================================
Wildcat! Interactive Net Server (c) 1999 Santronics Software, Inc.
Registration number: 00-0000  v5.3.449 (Apr 26 2000)  Node: 1
==================================================
 
 IJ> WC5 AKA Winserver readily answers a modem caller... Does not need a
 IJ> mailer or any software... it has it built in.  The program that starts
 IJ> the BBS to accept any calls is called wcOnline.exe.  Once that is 
 IJ> started, assuming you've configured things right, the BBS will accept
 IJ> HTTP, FTP, Telnet & Modem period.  For the most part this should look
 IJ> and fee the same way for all versions... There has been changes since
 IJ> 1990 (Whatever) when WC5 came out... but what I just wrote should be
 IJ> what you should expect from WC5/WINServer... 

Wildcat version 5.00 does not come with HTTP or FTP (these were add-on
products that needed to be purchased separately). I understand that wcOnline
handles connections between callers and wcServer. But unlike a lot of DOS
BBS's, WC5 does not have an option to load an active connection (high carrier)
into the BBS from the command line.

 IJ> NOW, the  wildcat.exe sounds like the DOS version of wildcat.  I have
 IJ> been around since day 1 of WC5 project, I have the current version of
 IJ> WINServer and run it, it is not the same as the as the DOS version. 
 IJ> If it is true that you have the DOS version... you can use any DOS
 IJ> Mailer you want... Frontdoor, Intermail, Binkley... Bla Bla Bla.  What
 IJ> you need is the command line for your batch file to pull up the BBS
 IJ> after the mailer passes the user the BBS.  This is a different
 IJ> question and it probably can be answered here...  If you want me to
 IJ> answer the question I'll have to download the DOS version and read the
 IJ> docs...  I can and will if I have to.... 

I have both DOS and Windows versions (WC4 and WC5).

If an external mailer like Frontdoor can exit without dropping carrier, and
then SexPOTS can pickup and resume carrier and forward the connection on to
WC5, then SexPOTS sounds like it might work.

 IJ> NOW, I'm sorry if you own the current version of Wildcat... the
 IJ> windows 32bit version... it runs differently... wcOnline.exe and my
 IJ> mailer pxOnline.exe (Platinum Express) run at the same time... in
 IJ> different windows and a human caller is passed directly to the BBS
 IJ> without any SysOp intervention... seamless easy as pi. 
 IJ> So, is there a way to pass a human caller, I'm a summing it's a dial
 IJ> up line with a physical modem... The Windows version... YES... Use any
 IJ> windows mailer, Binkley has one... AND use a program called
 IJ> SexPOTS.exe and you can have people dial in via modem and it'll be
 IJ> passed to your BBS via telnet. This is the simplest, easiest and it's
 IJ> free. 

Does SexPOTS work with virtual modems (eg. an inbound call via TCP/IP) ?

IJ> Now, as I said, I have been around since day 1 of WC5, not WC4, I have
 IJ> seen a few things.  I have talked about BGFax running as a frontend to
 IJ> WC5... I used it and it worked fine.  It's been 25 years and I don't
 IJ> recall how it did it but all I know was that it was easy.  Moreover, I
 IJ> was on the beta team for InterMail and they were working on a mailer
 IJ> that compatible with WC5 but it never made it into production... The
 IJ> author, Peter, went MIA... 

Is InterMail a Frontdoor clone ? (it looks like a lot like Frontdoor).
 
 IJ> Anyway... to be honest with you... if you have WC5/WINServer just
 IJ> spend the money and get its partner Platinum Express... it sells for a
 IJ> 100 bucks and it might be the best 100 you spent... Hand in glove
 IJ> works perfect... BUT even if you had those 2 programs you might need
 IJ> an other... BinkP or Internet Rex. 
 
Does Platinum Xpress support BinkP ?
 
 IJ> Apparently not.... and I wrote all that stuff.... SHIT... in my
 IJ> Platinum Express directory is an exe called pxmail.exe that you can
 IJ> run in a batch file  and it'll toss and import your fidonet mail....
 IJ> and I can only assume that it's looking at your PXW setup to know how
 IJ> things are configured. 

If "pxmail.exe" only works with Platinum Xpress then it is no good to me.

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