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 Message 2807 
 Daryl Stout to Doug Cooper 
 Re: Anti-Virus Suggestion 
 29 Jul 20 06:33:00 
 
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Doug,

 DS> Tea is a diuretic, but better for me than carbonated beverasges.

 DC> I love tea!  My favorite is PG Tips.  I do like darker coffees / teas
 DC> though. But my parents were raised in New York and thats what they
 DC> drank.  I got used to putting too much cream and sugar in either; i'm
 DC> down to cream.  I can't do diuretic's, as I've had past kidney failure.
 DC>  Oddly, the doctors said coffee was fine while within the hospital, but
 DC> not tea.  I can feel the difference too, as the caffine does not impact
 DC> me with coffee, but amps up my heart rate with tea.  But I love how tea
 DC> stays hotter then coffee, even if a coffee press is used.  Wierd.

  Well, with drinking over a half gallon a day (I'm into heavy drinking ),
you can guess what I'm doing several times a day and night. 

 DC> I had been away from windows for a good part of 7 years while running
 DC> my business.  I was able to use my iphone for all business functions.
 DC> What I'm not liking about windows 10 is it's apparent attempt to
 DC> transition to more of a google chrome environment.  I don't like the
 DC> "Ap" features, nor the abandonment of 16bit applications, nor the
 DC> punisment to 8gb of memory if the 32 bit version of 10 is used.  I
 DC> always find it odd that either the softare is ahead of the hardware or
 DC> visa versa.  I think ensuring downward compatibility is important, if
 DC> for anything nostalgia.  But the push for cloud computing I reject.

 DC> I'd rather have my stuff on my system and not tied to a paid format.  I
 DC> remember being able to load multiple malware programs, each more
 DC> effective with particular types, then others.  In addition, a free
 DC> standing virus program.  I uninstalled ALL anti virus and have been
 DC> using whats built in to windows 10 now, which works well.  I have found
 DC> that one program will state all is good, the other will find 10 errors
 DC> somewhere and correct, causing the other to freak out.  Without knowing
 DC> enough about the inner workings of said programs, I, for the moment,
 DC> have given up on all of them.

  I understand they are now integrating a Linux type shell with it, and it
will be for future versions as well. I think they're doing to that to pick
up the folks that are using Linux. I doubt they could get it set to also
do Mac (Apple) programs...but stranger things have happened.

  I have considered putting the BBS in the cloud, so I wouldn't have to
shut it down every time there was a threat of thunderstorms (as there
is to end the month of July, 2020). But, right now, finances are tighter
than a frog's butt underwater, so I have to wait on that.

  At one time, the Synchronet Control Panel showed an "alert" with the
IObit Malware deal, but I marked it as a false positive. Windows Defender
screamed "infection" with any other malware detection, except its own. The
only anti-virus program I've known to not "throw a fit" with any other 
anti-virus programs, was the one from Sophos. They have what's called the
"Naked Security Blog"...alerting you to all kinds of threats.

 DC> Re install it.  It works just fine.  Maybe you had an older version.  I
 DC> like firefox, it has an incredible java script instruction guide.  So I
 DC> keep it around for that purpose if for anything else.  It's also as
 DC> compatible with web pages as chrome with what appears to be less
 DC> invasive notifications and snooping.  Tor is my goto, to avoid more
 DC> tracking and the such, but it's slower.  Edge is horrible, as is the
 DC> built in wanna be version of outlook. It's so bad, most attachments
 DC> aren't even accessible.  I'm slightly disappointed within Win 10, but
 DC> ... its the operating system I know.  I use powershell more often then
 DC> windows anyway.  But, I'm planning on connecting my pi4's (3 of them)
 DC> and learning linux for the first time, here in a few weeks (which I've
 DC> been saying since March, but ... life gets in the way).  My kids are
 DC> already ahead of me on the PI's.  Smh.

  I tried that already...no dice. Also, Firefox crashed constantly on
Facebook.

Daryl

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